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Vani/Vanimute/VanillaKitsune

The following was mostly written by Jaitsu on behalf of both of us. I'll put my own blurb at the bottom:

"WHO: Vani/Vanimute/VanillaKitsune

WHERE: http://www.furaffinity.net/user/vani

WHAT: Was supposed to be a traditional art commission, in the style of http://www.furaffinity.net/view/4014996/ , for $65, split between myself ( Jaitsu / http://www.furaffinity.net/user/jaitsu ) and Neopagan ( http://www.furaffinity.net/user/neopagan ).

WHEN: The commission was agreed upon and paid for at Anthrocon 2010 (so, mid-late June, 24th/25th?) July 27th she started posting journals going on about her life situations delaying commissions ( http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/1586921/ ). Since she seemed aware that she had commissions waiting, including ours, we waited to prod her with emails. When she finally replied, she said she'd have the commission done by JUNE, or give us a refund. We agreed. It's now long, long past June, and we've received neither, and she's no longer reading notes or responding to emails. (Her twitter's still pretty active, though, so you can't say she doesn't have internet access)

PROOF: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/18095502/paganvaniemails.png

EXPLAIN: See "when" for most explanation. We paid for the commission at AC '10, then gave her plenty of time to work on it... then she started putting up dramajournals, so we felt sorry for her and waited a while longer. She kept putting up journals pointing out that she was aware that there were commissions waiting, including specifically mentioning ours, so we continued to wait, until finally, we got impatient. Neo noted and emailed her again, and FINALLY got a response, offering to do our commission (now upgraded to digital) by June, or give us a refund. As of October 4th, we've received neither, and the last several notes we've sent her haven't even been read."



Now, this has been sitting in my email ready to post here since mid October, but I've been hesitant to do so, maybe even a little guilty. I know what it's like to have real life throw bricks at you and the tons of other artists I commission know that I try to work with them and give them a lot of leeway(and tip frequently!) But, enough is enough. I've commissioned and had a full fursuit complete in a lot less time. After emailing her failed (which is apparently the BEST way to get in contact with her), I left her a note on FA which by it's bright yellow color has not been read since mid October, and it is now December. Due to the extensive list of people and any lack of reasonable progress on ANY of them, I'm sure there are many more people who are a little tired of waiting over a year for a simple piece of artwork that they paid good money for( http://dl.dropbox.com/u/18011580/don%27t%20take%20out%20of%20here/todolist.png ), I'm just the first to post about it here. A year and a half and nothing at all, infact, lost contact yet still twittering away? She doesn't seem like the dickish sort, but irresponsible is irresponsible.

For those of you who would think me foolish for getting a commish from someone with that long a lineup, I actually didn't know the artist well and the first exposure to them was the dealer's den at AC 2010. It was only after I got home did I see the huge to-do list. What's worse, is that she started offering commissions for more money in between this and had friends pay her way to AC 2011 apparently.. :|


I don't know if/when she is going to resurface. But if she does I want people to know her work ethic beforehand so they don't get into the same situation.
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celestinaketzia
Dec. 10th, 2011 09:49 pm (UTC)
Wow, that's a huge shame that she dug herself quite the hole. I hope you get your owed work and she can get back on track.
mrst4nkr
Dec. 10th, 2011 09:52 pm (UTC)
FWIW, I use twitter from my texts, and I have no internet on my phone.

And I thought my to-do list was large!

My goodness. @__@

I hope you get something out of this very soon. It's really too bad. She has cute art. It looks like she's just overwhelmed. :S It's no reason to ignore you, though.
pagan_foxcat
Dec. 10th, 2011 10:11 pm (UTC)
A year and a half with pretty much zero progess on that list. It's like she isn't even trying. People shouldn't take the money if they can't produce. :/ I'm trying not to be a dick about it and still feel bad about the need to post here, but she hasn't answered the last three emails and I basically hate twitter. I'm not going to sign up there just to chase her, though it sounds like some folks here know her and I imagine she'll take notice eventually.
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n
Dec. 10th, 2011 09:53 pm (UTC)
...She's actually been on tumblr quite frequently.
I follow her, and I was always curious as to where she used to post, and yep its her.
However because of finals or something her posting has been sort of but not really infrequent.

http://stripesandteeth.tumblr.com

You can try contacting her via ask, but you have to have an account to do so as she's turned off anonymous.
dangercrow
Dec. 10th, 2011 09:55 pm (UTC)
looks like a classic case of "took on too much work, got overstressed and shut down" because WOW is that ever a massive to-do list. Here's to hoping you can get your work or a refund soon.
four_calamities
Dec. 10th, 2011 09:56 pm (UTC)
This is very disappointing.

She's very active (and still posts art) on Tumblr as well:
http://stripesandteeth.tumblr.com/
http://maplemutesandtea.tumblr.com/ (and art + commission Tumblr, not as active)
I'd suggest maybe shooting her a "question" asking about your commission or linking her here. Knowing she's being posted here may spur her to at least read the note you sent over FA.
pagan_foxcat
Dec. 10th, 2011 10:34 pm (UTC)
I read that last link you posted and wow. Someone asked her why she abandoned Fa and DA completely, and he basically said she realizes she has a huge backlog of people when she says

"Two, I feel like going back would be committing suicide. Pretty much jumping into a pool of sharks that haven’t eaten in months."

Unfortunately avoiding the issue isn't gonna make it go away, it's just going to make it even worse. XD
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pagan_foxcat
Dec. 10th, 2011 10:12 pm (UTC)
If you can point her to her emails, FA and/or here, it'd be appreciated. I thought of contacting someone who knows her better than I to poke her, but didn't wanna cause a white knight situation. :P
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pepper
Dec. 10th, 2011 11:27 pm (UTC)
Vani owes me a commission too, but mine has been on her dA's "to-do list" since October 2006. No, I am not even kidding. It's been over 5 years since I commissioned her. I think that 5 years is more than enough time to finish a commission, regardless of how many personal problems you have.

She is just plain irresponsible. I follow her on Tumblr, and it's not as if she is art blocked or something, because I've see her post a lot of fanart of her current anime obsessions and whatnot. And it's not as if she doesn't have time either, because apparently, she has enough time to watch Tiger & Bunny nonstop.

After she posted a journal on her dA asking her commissioners to tell her if they still wanted their commission or would rather like a refund, I noted her asking her for the refund. She told me she would repay me the following month because she was waiting for a paycheck or something... I told her it was alright, since I've had problems with paychecks too. And you know what? Its been over a year since she noted me telling me that.

The worst part is that she doesn't has economic problems, cause I once read on one of her journals over dA that she had bought both versions of Pokemon HeartGold and SoulSilver CAUSE SHE HAD WANTED THEM BOTH. Oh yes, I bet she is till waiting for that paycheck, the poor girl. /sarcasm
pepper
Dec. 10th, 2011 11:44 pm (UTC)
Oh, I forgot to say that I've noted her several times regarding my overdue commission. And each time she replied saying my commission was next on her to-do list... yet, no progress, at all.

Sorry for my English.
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viothefoxbird
Dec. 10th, 2011 11:55 pm (UTC)
I know she has a lot of anxieties, but still, I don't think it's quite an excuse for her lack of motivation. She really does need to buckle down and start working on her owed commissions. She owes me one from I think a year ago? Maybe two. Not sure any more. I think it was around $35.

I understand she's probably really freaked out about this right now (what artist wouldn't be?) so I hope this is an eye opener for her.

Vani, if you read this, try to stay calm and start working on your commissions. Even if you get one done a week, just one. I know you've been working on merchandise to sell at conventions, but instead keep a stock of older work to sell instead of constantly making new ones, so you can devote that time to finishing owed work but still make money by selling old designs at cons. Do NOT take any more commissions on, perhaps for a long while. Running away will not make these people disappear. You owe a lot of people a lot of art. Please try to start working =(
filthy_animal
Dec. 11th, 2011 07:00 am (UTC)
This. :c
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neonr0se
Dec. 11th, 2011 03:16 am (UTC)
I'm also waiting for a traditional sketch commission from her that i ordered from her in 2010 :/ when she had her meltdown last fall i asked for a refund when she offered and im still waiting for it as well.
neolucky
Dec. 11th, 2011 04:26 am (UTC)
Not the first time she's done this, won't be the last. I lost my sympathy for her a long...LONG time ago. I never commissioned here -because- of how flaky she is with her business. My friend was lucky to get an image out of her (And even then it took a long time!). I just got a bad sense of "Never gonna do it" with this artist.

Too bad.
technicolorgoop
Dec. 11th, 2011 07:37 am (UTC)
I'm very surprised to find that this is the first post anyone has made about this artist. She's been up to these shenanigans for years now, taking money for commissions and then running.
duster
Dec. 11th, 2011 08:43 am (UTC)
I've heard rumors she has a habit of taking money and running, didn't think she did seeing how popular she is and how people are beating down her door to commission her.

The comment up there about skipping out on FA because she owes too much is pretty uh... uncool.
oonaslime
Dec. 11th, 2011 10:26 am (UTC)
Honestly, I'm amazed she wasn't posted to this community sooner. Vani is kind of infamous, y'know? Really bad reputation, especially in regards to business.

I have a friend that likes to keep an eye out on drama regarding her, so this is somewhat second-hand information. But I know she has a massive, massive backlog of work, and from what I understand she still has people waiting on commissions from over TWO YEARS AGO, and keeps taking new work. I don't even know of anyone who's managed to get a refund from her.

But meanwhile? She does icon giveaways on Livejournal, makes a bunch of palette-swap adoptables, does a massive amount of personal work and is currently doing a Tiger & Bunny merch giveaway (That she made, BTW) on Tumblr.

What I'm curious about is, does she technically qualify as a scammer? She's been doing this for ages.
fluke
Dec. 11th, 2011 01:58 pm (UTC)
Woah, I COMPLETELY forgot about this up until now but I commissioned her on her old LJ (vani_kins) back in 2009 for a $45 piece that I never checked up on / heard back about.

Honestly, I knew about her to-do list at the time I made the payment but I thought it'd be worth the risk for a chance at her art. I do have a habit of just writing off my cash and forgetting about commissions, so I don't care that much about it, but I'm still huge fan so I'd be pretty happy if she ever manages to finish up her huge backlog.
retr0h
Dec. 11th, 2011 03:55 pm (UTC)
Finally! I've told quite a bunch of people to post about her because she owes A LOT of artwork. She's pretty much taking peoples money and spending it on anime conventions/cosplay so she doesn't have enough to give people refunds. And she's avoiding all of her art galleries (FA/DA) because she doesn't want to read the mass amount of notes she has about owed artwork. Good luck about getting your art back because she's pretty much a lost cause.

It's sad to see a great artist do this to themselves. /: Also, she's gotten her friends to ask for donations for her when she wants to go to a con or something fun so she doesn't have to owe anything to anyone.
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