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Beware RejectedDreams

Who: RejectedDreams
Where: DeviantART, http://rejecteddreams.deviantart.com
What: Traditional Art
When: September 30, 2011 - Oct 2, 2011

Proof: In explanation.





I must strongly caution anyone who receives an art request from RejectedDreams on DeviantART. He comes off all nice at first, but then turns around and belittles your work, changes his story around, and accuses you of scamming him. Here is my ordeal:

I posted a journal stating that I was doing sketch commissions. In the past, it was understood that that meant pencil sketches, not cleaned up line work. Most people realize this when commissioning.

Journal - http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a357/neko_83/proof1.jpg

So I get a lovely note from RejectedDreams requesting a commission. I proceed to find out further info about his request. I also let him know my process, telling him that he may request changes to his image once I submit it to him, before the final image is complete.

Note - http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a357/neko_83/proof2-1.jpg

He thinks that's "cool." And even tells me to include the same type of tusks on his elephant that I had drawn on a previous piece in my gallery. Keep this in mind, because later on he tells me that's not what he wanted at all.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a357/neko_83/proof3-1.jpg

I send him a preview of what I sketched up

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a357/neko_83/Elephant_Sketch.jpg

Then proceed to tell him that if he would like any changes, he may ask for them now. He is completely fine with the image and tells me to go ahead and clean it up.

Cleaned up image -
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a357/neko_83/AchooElephant.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a357/neko_83/proof4.jpg

I send him the cleaned up sketch as well as an extra drawing for being one of the first 5 ppl to note me for commissions. He is very unhappy with it and begins to ask why its not like some of the other commissions in my gallery, mind you those were digitally inked, line art commissions, not sketches, as I had specified in my journal.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a357/neko_83/proof5.jpg
I actually feel bad that he misunderstood the terms of our agreement and would like to rectify the situation, but before I can even reply to his note, he attacks me, claiming that I am scamming him.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a357/neko_83/proof6.jpg

When I do respond to him, in a very professional manner, he becomes even more verbally abusive. As for the "ton of details," he was never specific about them at all and never made any suggestions when I showed him the preliminary sketch. I even agreed to revise the drawing, but as you can see, he just blew past that with his ignorant ranting.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a357/neko_83/proof7.jpg

I then issued a refund and blocked him. There is no way I am going to do work for someone like that. I tried to be nice...I mean I'm pretty sure I addressed the issue in a very professional way. I have never had such an experience like that before. Please do not take requests or anything else from this person. He is rude, completely unprofessional, and immature.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a357/neko_83/proof8.jpg



I advise saving yourself a lot drama by avoiding this one altogether.

10/7/11 Edit: Just wanted to thank everyone who has commented for all their wonderful support and advice. I just recently found out about this community and am very happy that it exists!

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mariechan
Oct. 6th, 2011 12:44 am (UTC)
I just know this guy personally from some debates and drama he made before. He was a Christian fundie and known to steal some photographs to try and make political points (one including a miscarried fetus). I just don't like his attitude altogether because in the past he's shown to be pretty difficult and bigoted overall. *shrug*
mikastar
Oct. 6th, 2011 09:46 am (UTC)
If I had known all of that before, I would have never taken a commission from him. After the whole incident, a bunch of artist friends on Facebook referred me over to this site. ^_^ Glad this place exists.
(no subject) - mariechan - Oct. 7th, 2011 07:23 pm (UTC) - Expand
oceandezignz
Oct. 6th, 2011 12:48 am (UTC)
This guy's 'tude puts a bad taste in my mouth. A very good beware all the way. How in the hell do you expect, much less DEMAND more than what is advertised!? Makes no sense.
mikastar
Oct. 6th, 2011 09:47 am (UTC)
Yeah, I was pretty sickened by the whole ordeal. >_< I can't believe people like that exist.
kayla_la
Oct. 6th, 2011 12:50 am (UTC)
Why would he assume 'sketch commissions' means he's going to get a coloured and inked piece? For ten dollars?? He must be one of those kinds of customers, thanks for the beware.
mikastar
Oct. 6th, 2011 09:48 am (UTC)
No problem. I only found out about this site after the fact, and he's already been listed on here once. Wish I would have known sooner.
(no subject) - starcharmer - Oct. 15th, 2011 10:54 pm (UTC) - Expand
shukivengeance
Oct. 6th, 2011 12:56 am (UTC)
You handled the situation gracefully and very professionally, beware is entirely deserved on his part.
mikastar
Oct. 6th, 2011 09:52 am (UTC)
Thanks! I've been in customer service for a long time now, so I've had years of practice dealing with jerks. ^_^
claytronic
Oct. 6th, 2011 01:25 am (UTC)
I liked the part where he said a-ok to the sketch but then said that it was all wrong and totally not what he asked for.
mikastar
Oct. 6th, 2011 09:50 am (UTC)
That made me insane for like an entire day. I kept thinking that somehow I missed something in his note. x_x
snowhawk
Oct. 6th, 2011 01:33 am (UTC)
Woah, so, on top of sudden change of heart and inability to read, he sends you a message, then an hour-ish later (because artists are glued to their computers at all times and never sleep/eat/work another job/go to school, I guess) accuses you of not responding.

Thanks for the beware. o_o
mikastar
Oct. 6th, 2011 09:55 am (UTC)
I am so glad you noticed that! XD I was totally blown away by the fact that he didn't even give me a chance to respond. I was actually typing back to the first note when he sent the second one. o_o
meguroco
Oct. 6th, 2011 01:42 am (UTC)
I just have to say that that is probably one of the most professional reactions I've ever seen to a terrible customer.

I applaud you.
suzeyy
Oct. 6th, 2011 02:05 am (UTC)
Seconding this. You handled yourself really well.
(no subject) - mikastar - Oct. 6th, 2011 09:57 am (UTC) - Expand
vellacraptor
Oct. 6th, 2011 02:37 am (UTC)
You handled it really well!
Though if you gave him the finished art, I would not have refunded him. It was his own mistakes, and clearly he was in the wrong. If anything, I would have given him just a partial refund as you do need some payment for the work.
kayla_la
Oct. 6th, 2011 04:08 am (UTC)
Yes, I'm not a big fan of refunding people like these because it essentially rewards them for their behaviour. I understand wanting him out of your hair, but now he has art AND his money.
(no subject) - mikastar - Oct. 6th, 2011 10:03 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - kayla_la - Oct. 6th, 2011 03:26 pm (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - mandyseley - Oct. 6th, 2011 03:38 pm (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - starcharmer - Oct. 15th, 2011 10:55 pm (UTC) - Expand
china_kitty
Oct. 6th, 2011 03:06 am (UTC)
I know him from a lot of drama he had created, but you handled him well despite his entitled behavior. A beware well deserved.
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lackoflollies
Oct. 6th, 2011 04:08 am (UTC)
As an artist who charges low prices for colored work ($10 colored sketches, $5 extra if you want it clean-inked), I feel slightly offended at the statement that we 'indulge' that behavior. I charge what I feel my work is worth, and so do others i'm sure. It's not OUR fault some random smear on the internet can't read and thinks he's entitled to far more then what he paid for simply by throwing a tantrum, nor should we be looked down upon and accused of encouraging a bad behavior because of them.
Just my two cents.
(no subject) - megamon_blue - Oct. 6th, 2011 06:27 pm (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - miryhis - Oct. 6th, 2011 06:52 pm (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - kerstin_orion - Oct. 6th, 2011 07:26 pm (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - lackoflollies - Oct. 6th, 2011 08:17 pm (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - ljmydayaway - Oct. 7th, 2011 02:04 am (UTC) - Expand
lackoflollies
Oct. 6th, 2011 04:10 am (UTC)
Major kudos for handling that so professionally. Thank you for the beware. <3
anjel_kitty
Oct. 6th, 2011 04:12 am (UTC)
Wow. Beware rightly earned. This guy's entitlement is frightful. 10 dollars is about average for a pencil sketch commission. I'm not really sure why he thought that it entitled him to far far more.

mekania
Oct. 6th, 2011 06:29 am (UTC)
Really, instead of the refund you should have linked him to the journal the example image. There's no way you weren't clear about what the commission included. And you seemed to go farther by making it more of a "scene" image with props and much more cleaned up than your example. He got more that what he paid for and is really undeserving of the refund.

I went to your page (to see the example pic) and saw that you are no longer are taking commissions. I'm assuming it's because of this situation and I understand but I would recommend taking a break and trying again. We (commissioners) are really not all like that.
mikastar
Oct. 6th, 2011 10:13 am (UTC)
Oh, I know not all commissioners are bad. I've been doing commissions for over 9 years, both on deviantART and in real life. I've never had an issue like this before. Usually, the people I work for are very respectful and professional. This just threw me off, so I decided to retreat to my cave, lick my wounds, and return when I have a nice, detailed contract clearly outlining my terms of service. So, at least if something like this ever comes up again, I'll feel protected when I tell them no refund. ^_^
(no subject) - braidedmane - Oct. 17th, 2011 02:45 am (UTC) - Expand
hunter_san
Oct. 6th, 2011 10:35 am (UTC)
You handled that really well. That guy is absolutely nuts and not worth the effort to talk with. I don't think he deserved the refund since it's his own fault he decided you suddenly meant something else, but kudos for handling him so well.
ellonwye
Oct. 6th, 2011 12:59 pm (UTC)
It's sort of cute how he's initially really happy with the sketch, but then completely changes his mind and says that's not what he wanted at all. He appears to live in his own little universe and the fact there's evidence that he thought the complete opposite not long ago doesn't seem to matter to him. Adurr.
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