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itsfurrytime on tumblr

WARNING! MANY PICS ARE NSFW! http://itsfurrytime.tumblr.com/

A lot of the art on the gallery is not credited to the original artists, and i do not believe any have given permission.

you can contact support@tumblr.com to ask for it to be removed.

edited for clarification and to add what can be done if you see your art there and want it down.
Artist's beware has moved!
Do NOT repost your old bewares. They are being archived.
https://artistsbeware.info/

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conigliomannaro
Sep. 17th, 2011 06:40 pm (UTC)
Kind of an Advice 4 Artists
Not trying to justify this person, but unfortunately Tumblr is an effin heaven for this kinda shit. People start a themed blog and post images, most often without crediting, to offer other people a place to check for specific things. The most Internet-art savvy mods do include crediting (and when used well, with crediting where it's due, Tumblr is a pretty good place in which to showcase art and spread the word) while the rest of people consider it obvious that they don't claim ownership on the pictures posted, and think that it is enough to put them in a safe spot. For this I consider it a matter of ignorance, more than real malice.

There are so many inexperienced kids on Tumblr that, probably, the best idea for artists is to include watermarks/urls in their pictures; that way, if the Tumblr 'thief' doesn't credit, people will still know whom the picture belongs to.
poizenkat
Sep. 17th, 2011 06:52 pm (UTC)
Re: Kind of an Advice 4 Artists
Its the same thing like facebook, but i do not want my art posted anywhere by ANYONE but me and i know other artists feel the same.
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dilario
Sep. 17th, 2011 06:49 pm (UTC)
uh... does this really count as "stolen"?
poizenkat
Sep. 17th, 2011 06:53 pm (UTC)
the ones that do not have credit probably are counted as being stolen.
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mialattia
Sep. 17th, 2011 06:59 pm (UTC)
A lot of the artists are of course ace enough to put their name or web address on their images, looking through the selection.

Yes, I realize artists don't like their work posted without asking, being one myself, but that's what signatures and watermarks are for. On the Internet, sharing communities like Tumblr DO exist, and since they are sharing the work and not claiming it, I would consider it free publicity. The artist is posting these images free online to begin with, and these people are sharing them. In the age of a great many sites to blog, reblog, post, share, etc, you have to realize this is going to happen if you share your work.

Most any artist can do is ask them to delete the post or whatever, but they're not stealing, they're sharing (albeit without the original links, so far as I can see).
poizenkat
Sep. 17th, 2011 07:00 pm (UTC)
the only things i see as more 'stealing' and such are the ones with no credits. I'm fine with sharing if im asked or whatever, but i know that many artists are not.
snowyedges
Sep. 17th, 2011 07:00 pm (UTC)
Aaaa there's one similar to this, called "FinerFur" that does the same exact thing -- they wound up posting a commission of mine that I did not want posted anywhere else, I "submitted" to them asking them to take it down (since they had no option for messaging) and I don't think they ever did, which is really rude and unprofessional, imo. If the commissioner wants it taken down, take it down. : |
I normally wouldn't mind, they DID link back to the artist (though they don't always, from what I see) - but the picture itself got a bit of flak and I had something akin to a mild panic attack over it. A bit of an over-reaction, yeah, but it's something I really have no control over no matter how stupid the reason is. 9___6 I feel targeted easily, I guess. Herp.

I really dislike tumblrs like this. Not sure there's really anything we can do to stop them, though.
tooiebird
Sep. 17th, 2011 07:18 pm (UTC)
FineFur does credit by linking to the original submission if you click on the image. But no, they do not ask for permission to re-post stuff.
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hellebore
Sep. 17th, 2011 07:11 pm (UTC)
Itfurrytime links back to artists when they can.
poizenkat
Sep. 17th, 2011 07:12 pm (UTC)
a lot of them are not linked back, plus some artists just dont want their art up.
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foxhack
Sep. 17th, 2011 07:30 pm (UTC)
http://itsfurrytime.tumblr.com/post/10326000220/unfortunately-a-bunch-of-furries-got-super-butthurt

Also, tumblr is weird. I've seen stuff that's been reblogged, and the source isn't listed anywhere other than the FIRST POST. Sometimes it's a pain in the ass to find that first post because of crappy journal layouts.
obliviousally
Sep. 17th, 2011 09:27 pm (UTC)
This is very true. Since you can do whatever you please with your tumblr layout (including build one from the ground up, without having to use a pre-made from the Theme Garden), some people code theirs so they don't have text/whatever on their main pages and you have to click through to find any information on the post.

Sometimes, when people reblog images, they remove the text in the caption box because they don't want the clutter on their page. This isn't an issue that the theme blogs should be held accountable for (if they're putting credit on the post to begin with, of course), but it's not something you can stop.

Generally, people who reblog and remove words in the caption box leave the click through or link back in tact.
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bumblybutt
Sep. 17th, 2011 07:45 pm (UTC)
It's annoying because despite being "sourced" there are no artist tags AT ALL and makes it difficult to find. My boyfriend and my friend's artwork is up there and they don't want it there and despite their newest post saying they'd take down the art of artists who don't want their stuff reposted, they have yet to do so as per my request (which wasn't rude or anything of the sort).

It bothers me more that people keep going along with "WELL IT'S ON TUMBLR, AND IT'S THE INTERNET, OH WELL' and insisting artists are butthurt instead of just stopping to think that the art isn't theirs and if the original artist doesn't want it there, it shouldn't be there and should be asked about instead.

No common courtesy in the art world and I think it's wrong to continue bringing up excuses to justify why it's okay to post artwork that doesn't belong to you, credited or not, without permission on other websites.
slyminera
Sep. 17th, 2011 07:55 pm (UTC)
'It bothers me more that people keep going along with "WELL IT'S ON TUMBLR, AND IT'S THE INTERNET, OH WELL"'
And that common excuse can easily be debunked with this lovely article I found through About.com a few weeks ago :D
http://www.llrx.com/features/bloggersbeware.htm
Myth #2, specifically.
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celarania
Sep. 17th, 2011 08:23 pm (UTC)
I guess I can understand being frustrated about this, but ultimately I think this is one of those cases where you're not going to be able to "win." I can't imagine tumblrs asking for permission or anything like that. However, personally I'd view this as more minor than wanting to put something in a FA/DA gallery or such. Tumblr is designed for passing along things that aren't theirs, kind of a "Look at this, it's neat!" site. The artists generally seem linked to in the main post (while it generally says something like "Sourced from furaffinity.net" the link goes to the artist's page, and that generally seems like it always says the domain rather than the subdirectoy).

Finally there is a recent post addressing the issue: here which specifies that the art can be removed if necessary. However, I'd encourage people to really examine this issue because I don't think it's going away anytime soon.

Personally I view this a little differently than other reuses of the artwork just because the tumblrs are generally just there to pass along artwork recommendations to people they think would like it. If you are concerned about images getting reposted, I'm make a very clear indication on the submission itself that it should not be reposted (while your copyright should include that, it will help clarify things to state it explicitly). However, to save yourself the headache, I'd only worry about it on a handful of images, make it clear that these few cannot be reposted anywhere due to whatever reason the reason is, and if possible, watermark them a lot. It may not be great for viewing them, but if you really want to stop people from reposting, that's your best bet.

The problem is most people reposting on tumblr don't see what they're doing as wrong, because they're not claiming the images of theirs, particularly if relinking them and they're not really gaining anything from reposting, even though the artist might. I think it's easier to respect "Please don't repost or reblog this anywhere due to its sensitive content" or something like that than "Don't repost any of my artwork anywhere under any circumstances." The former will tell someone that this image is off limits for a "good" reason, the second says everything's off limits because the artist is strict, and I'd be more likely to go against the latter - it leaves more room for rationalizing things and it doesn't give me anything I can show off.
obliviousally
Sep. 17th, 2011 08:41 pm (UTC)
I run a furry-themed tumblr blog. I repost things from Furaffinity with the bookmarklet, which includes a link back to the image and the artist name. I also reblog anthro-related artwork I see around tumblr, often from other furry art blogs. Often, these don't have sources because people don't know the sources.

No one is required to ask permission to repost your artwork and, even if you state that you don't wish to have it reposted, no one has to abide by that. This is the downside of posting your art on a public place (or on the internet at all). Frequently, people will have a conniption because there is no visible credit, but the image will have a click through with the image (like finerfur often does).

Also, in regards to those who have put in requests to have their art taken down through the tumblr ask box should be aware that tumblr often eats messages (no one knows why, it just happens sometimes). So there's always a changce that the blog owner simply didn't receive your message.on the other hand, they could just be a jerk.

(any typos or such are blamed on my phone's tiny keyboard)
poizenkat
Sep. 17th, 2011 08:43 pm (UTC)
Actually, you are wrong. The person IS required to ask permission. If someone does not want it to be reposted, then legally...reposting it is stealing even when credit is given.
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kekiko
Sep. 17th, 2011 08:45 pm (UTC)
Free publicity. Next.
poizenkat
Sep. 17th, 2011 08:47 pm (UTC)
copyright infringement as well.
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carms_lady
Sep. 17th, 2011 09:32 pm (UTC)
Using watermarks never really hurt anyone. These days, I think it's a necessity.
keeperofdreams
Sep. 17th, 2011 09:41 pm (UTC)
Pretty much this.
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heathermasanon
Sep. 17th, 2011 09:51 pm (UTC)
I dunno, I think this is blown out of proportion. Tumblr is mainly an image sharing site and while many people try to put credit, often they just don't know what it is. If you don't want your art up, then just ask them to take it down, and 99% of the time, they will. No one is taking credit for it, so I definitely don't see this as art theft.
marus_puppy
Sep. 17th, 2011 09:53 pm (UTC)
This.
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kayla_la
Sep. 17th, 2011 10:26 pm (UTC)
I'm not going to get into an argument for either side because this always turns out messy, but one thing I never understood was why there are so many people who enjoy the artwork artists make, but are also so eager to mock them and go against their wishes if they express they don't want their work reposted, much less not respect them enough to ask their permission to repost their work to begin with.

It's just not something I get. Somebody makes something and posts it. You like it, and you tell the artist thank you by just kind of taking it and doing whatever you want with it? I don't get it, I guess. Why wouldn't you want to be nice and respectful and ask first when somebody has shown you something you enjoy for free? Artists are being nice enough to share what they make, but you don't have to be nice enough to ask first?

Even in this post, there's a lot of 'Well I'm gonna do what I want and if the artist doesn't like it, piss on them! I'm gonna do it anyway!'. Why? Why would you want to treat the people who make things you enjoy that way?

Don't mind me. It just confuses me that people are so flippant about the feelings of people who do cool things and share that with people.

All that said, this is why I put the URL to my FA gallery on my pictures even though I feel like it detracts from the piece, because people are lazy and don't always credit.
keeperofdreams
Sep. 17th, 2011 10:27 pm (UTC)
Sometimes it's hard to credit and not everyone's mocking. That's the difficulty of the internet search engine, when sometimes images pop up without credit.

Not all rebloggers are criminals. :/
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celestinaketzia
Sep. 17th, 2011 10:35 pm (UTC)
You know, tumblr people, telling people that they are "butthurt" and mocking them does you no favors in getting people to be happy about you reposting their work. It only makes you look worse. :)
keeperofdreams
Sep. 17th, 2011 10:39 pm (UTC)
I've been trying to be civil but it's like it's not getting through some thick skulls. :/
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ragecake
Sep. 17th, 2011 10:39 pm (UTC)
I follow that tumblr, and most of the time, if there is credit to be given, it will be a majority of the time.
Seriously, Im pretty sure if you say, "OHAI, that picture is mine, could you remove it/credit me" they would.

The reason they're so pissed off right now, is because the person running that tumblr, is getting epictons of hatemail, which really doesn't help anyone, except make the artists look like children.
keeperofdreams
Sep. 17th, 2011 10:49 pm (UTC)
THIS THIS THIS

All of the Tumblr comms I'm on will GLADLY give credit if the artist asks them to, and same with removing art!
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