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Sep. 10th, 2011

Please forgive me if this is inappropriate to post here, but since you guys give good advice on how to sell, I was wondering if there was any advice on where to sell and how to sell more.

I've moved out and plan on using commissions to bring in some extra cash while I look for another job. However, I don't really know where to sell other than dA, FA, and teenycom on LJ. Does anyone else know of good places to advertise? Where have you had success? (Sidenote: is buying ad space on FA worth it?)

Also, I don't really know what I can do to make myself more marketable and appealing to customers. In general, what can help your selling rate? What makes artwork more appealing? Obviously this is subjective, but I'm certain some things sell more than others.

Thank you for reading! C:

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kayla_la
Sep. 12th, 2011 02:01 am (UTC)
FA adspace is definitely worth it as far as commissions and such go, as far as I've heard. The problem is actually getting the ad. You have to get it through dragoneer and he's really hard to get a hold of, people regularly wait months just to get a response about their ad.
grygon
Sep. 12th, 2011 02:10 am (UTC)
I was JUST poking at the "advertising" link on FA and it kept asking me to give wiki my UN and PW.
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tanginello
Sep. 12th, 2011 02:05 am (UTC)
I had pretty good success selling on the Furaffinity Forums recently.

I find that my quick and cheap stuff sells way better than my pricier things. I imagine it depends on the artist, but most of my sales are in the $5-$15 range (aka not enough for this to be a substantial amount of income unless you are wicked fast.)
sigilgoat
Sep. 12th, 2011 02:09 am (UTC)
FA ad is worth it! It can take a while to get it (If you wait more than 72 hours, send an email to whatever Dragoneer contacts you can find), but it helps a LOT~!
gaaralover85
Sep. 12th, 2011 02:09 am (UTC)
Ad space on FA is totally worth it, I managed to snag some time from their Black Friday sale last year. And it gave me approximately 7k pageviews from the time it started in late january to when it came down at the end of july. It gave me a LOT of good business. And I plan to buy another ad slot close to when i properly re-open for commissions.

As far as marketing yourself on other areas, it's really hard. I have had to slog for the past 3years to get my name roughly out there. It's a daily thing you have to do, journals, commenting, watching, advertising. You have to keep yourself out there otherwise you'll just drop off people's radar very quickly. I've noticed it since closing for commissions for a little while, and it takes a lot of effort to get started. but once you have it takes minimum effort to keep it going. If that makes any sense?

I wish you the best of luck! <3
mazz
Sep. 12th, 2011 02:12 am (UTC)
dealers den and furbid might give you some more press.
frazzled_niya
Sep. 12th, 2011 02:13 am (UTC)
I guess you could sell prints on places like Red Bubble and Etsy or cafepress too o_O...though that's provided you can supply for the masses (i.e. something that lots of people will want)
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spiffystuff
Sep. 12th, 2011 02:32 am (UTC)
Depending on where you are, you could also try going to local cons and art shows
Usually artist alley is free (fur cons) or cheap (indy [relevant interest] cons) and art shows are free
To cut down overhead you might be able to volunteer to get free attendance - I don't know too much about doing it and how much it'd clash with running a table but I thought you only had to volunteer for a couple hours so it seems like there'd still be plenty of time to sell at a table
Also, if it's far enough that you can't stay at home, but are still wanting to do the con, roomshare and rideshare!
neolucky
Sep. 13th, 2011 02:16 am (UTC)
Ah I've never been to a con (furry or not) with a free AA. Which ones are you talking about? Heck I've never been to -any- convention with a free aa or dealers hall.
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leahtaur
Sep. 12th, 2011 04:07 am (UTC)
FA adspace is very much worth the money, but I really recommend you get your ad and money together sooner rather than later. A friend of mine actually had to wait a month... A MONTH... for Dragoneer just to respond to her and put her ad up. She also put up an ad for our folio group, only to have the image be broken for quite a while before it was fixed. I imagine she'll be compensated for the downtime but I don't know for sure.

In other words, it's worth it, but expect to be frustrated.
ogawaburukku
Sep. 12th, 2011 06:48 am (UTC)
I am speaking from experience that's probably ten years behind the times, but I did commissions on ebay in 2002-2005 and made pretty good money. Not to sound insulting to buyers, but a lot of people didn't realize I would be posting commissions again whenever I was finished with the first sale, so if I had a starting price of $20 I would sometimes make $60, $90, and once I made $300 by a guy who thought he'd pay in advance for art he never ended up asking for! In 2005 I started using DA and stopped working through Ebay, but Ebay was a gold mine for a while. I'd still do it but I'm in Japan, and most of my clients paid in dollars, and the dollar is no longer stronger than the yen... That's really killed my overseas business XP

jurann
Sep. 12th, 2011 06:52 am (UTC)
FurBuy is an excellent place to get your art and commissions seen, it's currently the fandom's most active auction website. They also run ad banners for a lot cheaper than FA and there would be no wait whatsoever in getting your banner up and running. They have a special where they will give you the rest of the current month free if there are no other ads currently in a section - and right now the homepage banners section is open. Find out more here:

http://www.furbuy.com/docs/adbanners.shtml

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cappucola
Sep. 12th, 2011 11:27 pm (UTC)
There are a lot of people who hold auctions for commissions in their FA journals. I have done so a couple of times myself, but I'm curious if getting an account set up and whatnot for furbuy would be a better idea, or would it be just more of a hassle?
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korth
Sep. 12th, 2011 01:10 pm (UTC)
My FA banner was well worth it and actually I didn't wait at all.. I think it was up in less than a week after I originally e-mailed? I was holding some quicker sales to do pre-orders for AC so I needed it up ASAP.
fetalstar
Sep. 12th, 2011 03:07 pm (UTC)
FA banner is totally worth it.
I joined FA mainly to get commissions, because people on DA don't really commission you unless you have over 500k pageviews

The day my ad went up, I had enough commissions to make up for the ad, AND pay my rent and bills for the month.

So yes, totally worth it. :3
candycornsnake
Sep. 12th, 2011 04:13 pm (UTC)
Do you have to make the FA banner flash yourself? And do you host it or just email it to Dragoneer? I think I want to try this!!!
fetalstar
Sep. 12th, 2011 05:16 pm (UTC)
You do have to make the banner yourself, but it's not flash, it's just a gif.
And you just send the banner as an attachment when you apply for an ad, and he takes care of everything else.

The only issue I've ever had with that, was he accidentally forgot to upload the banner that I had provided (it was a new one, that was advertising my summer sale), so I sent him an email and he immediately fixed it and gave me 10 extra days for free. :3
crssafox
Sep. 13th, 2011 02:46 pm (UTC)
Echoing the others that say FA banners are worthwhile. They're inexpensive and generate traffic to the page you're advertising. Even if you don't necessarily get immediate commissions from it, you'll gain watchers for sure, who may eventually turn into customers at some point. It's all about generating traffic. :)

I agree with the comment above about getting into local art shows/conventions. Look into anime or multi-genre fandom conventions - cute animals sell pretty well at those cons, especially if you offer pre-made items like key chains, stickers, magnets, cell charms, and prints. They're usually pretty reasonably priced for artist's alley spaces, around $50 or so for the weekend. Also consider on-campus conventions; some anime events are hosted at college campuses and they run two or three days, with inexpensive or free admission to attendees, leaving them with more money to spend on artists and dealers. Those are usually pretty inexpensive as well; I'm doing two on-campus cons over the next six months and paying only $50 at each for good spaces.
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