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yet another update on this: http://www.livejournal.com/community/artists_beware/48904.html

The short: No, i still have not recieved what I paid $400 for. And her list of excuses for not sending anything off just grows longer and longer (first it was her screwed up kid, then money woes, and now her husband who turns out to be a lovely rolemodel for the kid by being a felon).

The long: In one email on her yahoogroup she states:

>But this person said one thing and then disappeared without a word and
>expects a lightening fast response on my behalf? No email, no
>warning, no "hey I couldn't send it off". Nothing. Anything. It's
>better late than never; right?

She states this again later, painting an ugly picture of me where she's wrong, I paid that plush off within a month and replied usually same-day as she. I can gladly provide a PrtScn/Screen-shot of my paypal account (important info blurred off the page ofcourse).

>Bare in mind I did replied to every email beforehand, yes I did. Gave
>updates accordingly. No payment as they said they'll pay, no reply
>until several weeks later then its *POOF* here's the final payment;
>now SEND IT OFF NOW!!! Type thing. My luck school had started.

yes, she was fast when she wanted the next payment, but once that July 11th payment, the last one, came, she now takes WEEKS on end to reply.

She also tried to bunk me with:
> Well jezus fucking christ man.
> No one reads my commission page do they?
> The thing hasn't changed for what, two years?
> And yes this order was made around that time. And that was the
> commission that said "I will pay at ???? time and never did until a
> GOOD while later. No email, no "hey I can't do it", nothing.

I had that $400 to her within a MONTH. My paypal reads: first payment was made on June 9th and the last was made on July 11th. And a web page with those called rules is fine but when she contradicts them in PERSONAL EMAILS is when it becomes a problem (like lieing about it being nearly done and shipping very soon).

She also said:

> Enjoy your box of wires fuzz with a cat head and enjoy.
> It was a rushed project. Read the commission page- it states this
> well but no one reads. Estimated commission completion,

As those of you who read the other posts (link above) you know as well I do she said it was just about done aside from minor details on the 11th of July and would be mailed shortly. Now she's telling me she's no where near complete and will be sending me a total piece of crap?

Before all this: September 6th I finally get a reply to my Sept 3rd asking a SECOND time for a tracking number. She says she'll do it. I email her the 10th, 16th, and 23rd asking where the tracking # is. She replies the 24th with:

"Haven't had the chance to send it off yet-
ASAP as in as soon as possible-

Sorry for the extreme wait."

Last personal email from her.

Back to this week: she posts saying she is "thinking of" offering refunds. I don't know about you all but to me that says she more than likely hasn't even started my piece (and if she has, where's the proof?). I'm reluctant to take a refund for so many reasons: A. if she does send me crap it's another piece of proof against her, B. I didn't spend over 2 (3?) months fighting with this eejit for nothing, I want what I damn well paid for, period.

Yeah, I'm stubborn.

EDIT: when i find the time here and there i plan on documenting this whole ordeal in a web page, every email, every yahoogroup post concerning it, every paypal payment, everything. beginning to end. why? well, i've given up on every recieving what i paid for at all, and i'd like a permenent place to store all the info. if you've had similar woes with her and want in, anonymously or not, email me please. a few already have emailed me just to let me know i'm not alone but requested to be anonymous... if i could convince you to participate in the site (again, anonymous if you like) please say so.

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Oct. 9th, 2005 11:18 pm (UTC)
I would personally recommend you taking a refund if there's even the slightest chance of doing so. Yeah, you want the product and that's why you ordered it in the first place, but trust me, no one wants to commission someone when they're on that person's bad side.

You have well-defended reasons to be agitated, yes, but the basic fact is that she's angry at you and she's the one in charge of making your product. She even implied in her own words that you're going to get something terrible and rushed. Is it really worth essentially wasting $400 just to have "another piece of proof against her" when you already have logs and such? I don't know what your financial situation is, but to me, $400 is a lot of money. Actually, $400 is just barely shy of what I make in a solid month. I would definitely reconsider signing away that kind of money just to prove some sort of point, when there's even a slight chance you could get a refund and put it toward a different artist (if you want a plush that badly.)
Oct. 10th, 2005 01:50 am (UTC)
see replies below about so-called refund.
Oct. 10th, 2005 01:24 am (UTC)
Screw the refund. All you'll get is either, "The check's in the mail," or, "Why do you want a refund? I'm almost done!" or, "I can't afford to give you a refund, the money has been spent," quite possibly also saying that it was spent on the materials for your commission and that she'd be willing to do a partial refund, since it's not her fault you're impatient. THEN you'd get a check-in-the-mail syndrome.

If it was July of this year, it might still be too soon to go to the courts. But I'd at least start sounding out lawyers.
Oct. 10th, 2005 01:50 am (UTC)
that's EXACTLY what i'm worried about- she not giving a whole refund OR refunding me in teeny tiny increments over a 300 year period "cause her site says so" OR saying she only owes me half of it, etc. etc.
Oct. 10th, 2005 02:35 pm (UTC)
Go to paypal and get a refund.
Nov. 3rd, 2005 02:07 pm (UTC)
I vote for this, too! There's a buyer's protection in Paypal! Write a letter to Paypal, naming the payments, and that you still haven't received the goods you paid for with those payments.
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