I don't know if warnings about trading with others is allowed on here, but this person seems to have burned a lot of people and I'd like to forward anyone else before anyone else does free artwork with nothing to show for it.
Who: Imutani (http://www.furaffinity.net/user/imutani/)
When: June 15th - August 12th, no contact, given up.
Who: Imutani (http://www.furaffinity.net/user/imutani/)
When: June 15th - August 12th, no contact, given up.
What:
Imutani contacted me on June 15th asking for a trade. I told her I didn't have time for anything other then a sketch trade, but then ended up inking it and uploading on June 24th (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/5994530/) I heard from her long enough for her to tell me she liked the image, and upload it into her gallery. Her last activity is on June 29th on her profile.
However, I did send her a note on July 4th, asking for an update, or even contact regarding the trade, which she read, and then I sent another one July 13th, warning her that if she did not respond to the notes she has read, that I would post here, or involve Admins. I told her I didn't care if she needed more time, but she needed to communicate with me, be it that something has come up and she cannot complete her end, or that shes having a hard time completing her end.
July 30th I sent one last note, which has not been read. I did contact the FA admins, and they basically blew me off and said there was nothing they could do about it.
So its now August 12th, and I've given up, and at least want to warn other people that this person seems to really enjoy going out and getting art trades with other people, and just not completing her end of the deal. There were three of us total posting shouts on her page, one of them was deleted it looks like now there are just two (Two from me, one from another person).
Some of you may feel I am being too aggressive about this, and maybe I am to a point, but heres my deal: I don't care if it takes you a year or more to complete a trade, as long as when I send you a note, and you read it, that you respond. Or at least communicate in some manner with me so I know you haven't just scammed me into free art. Be that as it may, I understand if people get a bit touchy about this.
Thanks :)
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It seems like this person may intentionally be starting trades with no intention of finishing in order to get free art, which is definitely something people should be aware of.
I am of the same opinion as you are. If they just communicate, I can wait for years.
Money may not have changed hands but it should still be treated with the same professionalism as a commission.
I'm wary of people who flake on trades because if they'll flake on payment through trade, how will they act for a commission? :|
Either way, its always sad to see this, more so if the admins can do nothing about it as I guess they dont see this as theft of services. Even if she cant do it right away, communication is key, most people are understanding if you say "hey, cant get to it right now, will try to do it on X date, I will keep you updated." They are most likely going to understand and not cause grief. Why they think ignoring the situation is going to make it go away is beyond me.
But yea, I wouldn't have cared if she needed more time, if she had communicated. I felt the Admins response was rude, honestly.
Hopefully she'll come around and finish their trades soon. :P
I agree, hopefully she'll do something soon, be it finish, or even just talk to people.
No worries, it was a learning experiance, atleast from now on I have a few tips and hints from people here to avoid bad trades :3
Hopefully more people will consider making bewares about trades, 'cause I'd love to know who to avoid trading with! Trades gone wrong actually feels more personal to me than bad commissioners, for some reason.
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Edited at 2011-08-14 10:13 pm (UTC)
One of them the last time I talked to they told me that they'll "get to it when they get to it" a month or so after I finished my half in Jan. 2010 and she keeps jumping accounts/doesn't post anymore, while the other changed accounts/disappeared in 2006 (anyone know where "Azusasky" is? had a dragon named Naka whom I drew..).
So yeah, trades are just as important as commissions I think, only instead of money it's art. Shame this person is scamming artists like this :/
Personally, when I open for trades, I do not start my half until the other person has finished theirs, or has shown me a WIP. Maybe you could do that in the future?
Or, you could start sketching your half, show the person a very small and watermarked WIP preview, and if they want you to finish it, they need to finish their half first.
Just some advice for the future. :)
I do not start my half until the other person has finished theirs, or has shown me a WIP.
I've seen this before and I've always wondered, what happens when both artists have that policy?
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/5933982/
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/5933964/
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/5933955/
(Not sure if that was already posted, I'm pretty groggy right now).
I'm not too great at getting trades done in a timely manner, but avoiding someone asking for updates is pretty wrong. :I
But for the love of god, shes not even trying..
As for the timely manner, Like I said, I don't care if it takes you a year, just communicate with me :)