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Cicatrizesp/Rabid

I was told last time that it was time to make an official beware post, but the artist in question contacted me in the comments, apologized, and said the art would be done at the end of June.  I think it's time, though, since it's been nine months of excuses and being ignored, and I really don't want anyone else taken in for more money than I spent. :T

I commissioned Rabid Sept. 15, 2010 for three digital busts to be finished by Halloween at $15.  After Halloween passed with no sign of them I poked her, and was told since I wasn't first in the queue she didn't get to mine.  I said fine, just finish them whenever.  I waited until Jan. 17 of '11 to ask her again.  She was nice about it, saying I didn't deserve to wait so long, she'd get them done.  By this time the person I'd commissioned this for were no longer together, so I made a change and waited until mid-February, when I decided I'd ask what was up.  She claimed she just forgot to do them, so I asked for a refund.  I made sure to be extremely polite throughout this whole ordeal.  She said she would as soon as she opened commissions again - which she did shortly afterward.  After I threatened a Paypal dispute (I had no idea at this point of the time limit :P) she begged me not to, since she was using her grandma's PP.

This back and forth went on for awhile until she stopped responding altogether.  When I posted here to see if anyone had heard from her (and several had) she responded with more apologies and a promise to do the art - not to refund me as I'd asked and as she'd promised.  Also in the comments section she admitted having traced over a photo for at least one submission.  I have plenty of screencaps once again, if anyone needs proof.

Maybe I was bothering her too much over $15 but it's still stealing. I've been contacted by at least one other person who was wondering if she'd done the art I'd commissioned, which I thought was kind of bad form - but it's relevant that other people are being screwed over too.  At this point I don't expect to see either a refund or the art, and I'm giving up trying to pursue it.  It seems like she'd rather placate people or ignore them rather than fulfill her obligations. :/

Edited: Caps:

Inital deadline: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v40/paris_in_flames/Capture5.png

Offered refund: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v40/paris_in_flames/Capture4.png

Art offered after refund never shows up: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v40/paris_in_flames/Capture3.png

Art promised in June: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v40/paris_in_flames/Capture2.png

Proof of tracing: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v40/paris_in_flames/Capture-2.png
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weirdmisty
Jul. 9th, 2011 10:46 pm (UTC)
Maybe I was bothering her too much over $15 but it's still stealing.

Two responses to this:

1. The number of times you contacted her vs. the amount time this stretched over is not at all unreasonable.

2. How much money the commission was worth is irrelevant. As you said, it's still stealing, and this behavior is inexcusable whether for $5 or $500.
megumi_kitten
Jul. 10th, 2011 12:27 am (UTC)
I agree with this.

Also, the fact she is still saying she'll do the art even after she promised you the REFUND back shows me she's not keeping track of much. :/
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latiro
Jul. 10th, 2011 02:45 am (UTC)
a little off-topic, but you forgot to put a / in the closing , 'cause the LJ cut is kinda broken

on-topic: I'm very sorry to hear you've got screwed over :(
vibris_sae
Jul. 10th, 2011 04:26 pm (UTC)
Thanks for pointing this out :P I tried to fix it a few times and it didn't work, so I just took the cut out altogether.
rabid_wolf
Jul. 10th, 2011 02:51 am (UTC)
I DID say the art would be done in June, but at that time you told me you didn't want it anymore and you just wanted a refund, which I told you I could in fact do. I actually JUST got a part-time job and haven't been paid for the 6 hours I've worked, but as soon as I do, I will put $15 of it in PayPal and send it to you.
ogawaburukku
Jul. 10th, 2011 03:53 am (UTC)
Bad form, it should have been done back in 2010, or a refund should have been issued the first time it was asked for.

Here is some advice; do NOT take money out from paypal, or spend it, until you finish an art commission. That way, if someone wants their money back because you couldn't get around to doing art for them (and it happens, since real life is full of surprises), you can promptly return payment.

If you can't do that, you shouldn't be doing commissions.
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neolucky
Jul. 10th, 2011 05:00 am (UTC)
I agree with the others, however I noticed that you left a shout on her page saying:

"Hey.. I'm really sorry, I've had to go to artists_beware since you seem to be ignoring my notes about my refund. I hope we can get this resolved so I can take it down."

Just want to let you know you cannot take this down via the rules here. It can be marked as resolved, yes, but it shouldn't be removed and will remain on record. I do hope it gets resolved very soon!
vibris_sae
Jul. 10th, 2011 03:38 pm (UTC)
I do know that now, I made sure to read the rules before I posted! :)

Plus, uh, I think having a record is going to be a good thing.
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thaily
Jul. 10th, 2011 10:05 am (UTC)
I'd go ahead and include any evidence you might have, especially of the accusation of tracing, which is quite serious.
vibris_sae
Jul. 10th, 2011 04:29 pm (UTC)
Went ahead and edited with some caps. If you need more just ask c:
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spiffystuff
Jul. 11th, 2011 01:59 am (UTC)
Fwiw, I don't see a huge problem with tracing as long as it's the artist's photo too. May look ugly, yes, but if thats how they work it should be apparent from their gal
weirdmisty
Jul. 11th, 2011 04:01 am (UTC)
I agree. There's no reason to even mention the tracing in this post. Not only is it not relevant to the question at hand, but there's no legal or ethical concern about using your own photography for a commission.
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vibris_sae
Jul. 12th, 2011 02:16 pm (UTC)
Very true! The tone of this person's email was just really off-the-wall upset and it seemed like they just wanted someone with whom they could bash the artist personally as well as professionally.
_patches_
Jul. 12th, 2011 07:30 pm (UTC)
Late to the party, but I've been watching this thread... I'm especially unimpressed with how the artist in question handled herself in her responses to everyone. I'm seeing no sincere apologies... All I can see is an attitude, excuses, and her being annoyed that she was posted here. Though, I know it's not her first time being posted here.

I hope you'll update us to say if you do or don't get your refund... because I think you've been quite patient and definitely should get your money back.
vibris_sae
Jul. 12th, 2011 07:39 pm (UTC)
I definitely will. I see again that she made no deadline on when she planned to pay me back in her comments here. I think I have been patient, probably too patient. :P

Too bad this was my first commission ever :T I wish I'd thought to check here.
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