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Another rule reminder

2. Whatever happens in the community, stays within the community. Do not go to the offender's LJ or art site account and harass them, or contact them any other way if the matter under discussion does not regard you personally.

I noticed several people from the comm in Handehog's journals. Please don't do that. Do not egg him on, try to correct him, or just feed into his whole deal. Not only is it against the rules, but it is not helpful to the situation reported here.

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connorgoodwolf
Jul. 4th, 2011 06:43 pm (UTC)
^ This

If the person is one of those fragile types, they may DFE(Delete F*cking Everything) and disappear.
marus_puppy
Jul. 5th, 2011 04:49 pm (UTC)
And Handehog did just that.
connorgoodwolf
Jul. 5th, 2011 05:30 pm (UTC)
Congrats to the people here who trolled Handehog, they're now no better than him.

This is exactly why people need to use some common sense. There's a different when sending a friendly message to someone vs being a complete drama queen.

The mods should start banning people, we all know the rules.
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kayla_la
Jul. 4th, 2011 06:46 pm (UTC)
That, and I think stuff like that could get the community itself in trouble with LJAbuse. We don't want to come off as a platform for people to harass others, communities HAVE been banned for that.
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grygon
Jul. 4th, 2011 07:16 pm (UTC)
People will get into frenzies over anything, especially if they dislike someone for whatever reason. Then there are the folks they really like and everyone would defend them for murder.

Not saying I agreed with what the guy did, but I thought the swarm of hate was a bit much, especially when I replaced the guy's name with "someone everyone likes"... it sure would have generated a different sort of frenzy altogether.
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kairi_koitra
Jul. 4th, 2011 08:04 pm (UTC)
That being said it might be a good idea to take screen caps of that journal as well just in case it is deleted since it does add to the testimony of the orignal poster of the A_B article. But I fully agree with the need to move on idea.

The A_B article is starting to look like it belongs more in a drama community then based in an informative one. While his actions are truly "disturbing" and his attitude is evil.. we still want to walk the higher ground.
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poizenkat
Jul. 4th, 2011 10:02 pm (UTC)
it was actually spread all over FA by many many artists im watching (id give examples but i dont wanna drag them into this lol) i didnt even realize this was on A_B until someone told me on FA, so for that i apologize.
kayla_na
Jul. 4th, 2011 10:40 pm (UTC)
Yeah, sorry about that as well. The link was actually given to me via note from one of my friends. Didn't realize someone actually made an entry about him.
sekhmet
Jul. 4th, 2011 11:02 pm (UTC)
i got it via twitter.
marus_puppy
Jul. 5th, 2011 04:56 pm (UTC)
I was wondering why so many people from here popped up on the journal calling him out... It makes more sense now.
crssafox
Jul. 5th, 2011 09:28 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I saw a couple of artists post about him on FA; I'd seen the post here on A_B when there were only about 10 comments on it, but then after the third or fourth person linked to him/the A_B post I went back and checked, three pages of comments. Dang!

I don't think it's necessarily that people from A_B are going over to him and harassing him; I think word's broken free from LJ and other people around the net are not happy with him, so even if someone's a member of this community they may not have seen the post here (I know I'm not the only one that doesn't keep communities on their friends list, I only check them out periodically) before interacting with him.
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mekania
Jul. 5th, 2011 07:39 am (UTC)
I know there is obviously a lot of people going there because of the AB entry but most people were responding to his journal itself and not the details of his entry. While the people referencing the entry were at odds with your rules, would the others really be in trouble for what was said? There are comments above by community members who found the journal by other means so it'd be hard to enforce properly, right?

I'm tired and I'm feeling like this is not coming out right but basically: I don't think people going over to an AB subjects page and discussing what they have written/posted should be against the rules. Whereas I completely agree with the rule about going over there and starting AB post-related flame wars and harassment.
stormslegacy
Jul. 6th, 2011 05:30 pm (UTC)
This is exactly how I feel. Getting banned as a member because a person HAPPENS to be posted on AB is entirely different than an AB-started flame-war. I don't think reacting to what is said in a journal is the same thing at all =/ Posting harassing comments in their shouts is one thing, but as long as it not referencing the entry/obviously harassment due to the entry I think it's overstepping the bounds a great deal to ban people.
oceandezignz
Jul. 6th, 2011 11:59 pm (UTC)
LJ Abuse may or may not be able to tell the difference (or care to tell the difference) between. Thus the 'better safe than sorry rule'. I don't like it myself (frankly I had a few words I'd have loved to put where the sun don't shine on him...), but its better to hold my tongue and still see an A_B about, than to let loose and BOOM! that was the one person who decided to declare A_B called a field day on them to LJ.
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