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Starfinder/ astray/ Kannos( edit )

Update: She fixed the name on my badge today. Wohoo its pretty too, now just 2 art peices left till this is resolved.

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Well Starfinder finished one third of my commissions she offered instead of the stuff she owed me. but she got my name wrong and I wrote her about it and she didn't respond until I left a not on her fa saying it was one third done and she was gone again so she sent me this back


Kannos
7th Jun 2011, 2:20pm
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You know, I'm really not pleased that you posted on my old FA, where I can not even defend myself, shit-talking because I finished 'half of your works and then fell off the planet again". Did you try to contact me to see why? No. Well, guess what? I had finals and had to study. That comment was entirely unnecessary and does nothing to help me.

You pretend to care, but honestly I don't think you do. I'll finish up your remaining things over the summer break, but knock it off with the rude comments. Seriously.

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So I guess I will never see the rest of it now. I wish now I had just asked for my money back. I actually apologized and tried to sympathize but just got more guilt and now haven't heard from her and can't even use the first badge since the name is wrong urg.
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kayla_la
Jun. 10th, 2011 04:33 pm (UTC)
Well.. nice to see she's still being nasty, non-apologetic, pretending it's your problem to find out what her Horrible Problem of the Week is, and guilt tripping the crap out of her customers. Maybe if she hadn't scammed so many people for so long, she wouldn't have been banned from FA, and she could 'defend herself'. Pfft.

This is why I was so sure she'd never get any better.
cesarin
Jun. 10th, 2011 04:56 pm (UTC)
I second this comment, she keeps pointing fingers like it was everyone else's mistakes and problems.

and to make it worse, she acts like everyone owed her something, even when she was PAID TO DO A JOB.
rogue1717
Jun. 10th, 2011 04:34 pm (UTC)
she's never had any intention of completing any of her queue. At this point people need to band together and sue her for breach of contracts
violet_neko
Jun. 10th, 2011 05:27 pm (UTC)
problem is she finishes some on time and with no problems. its odd how she picks which to finish and which to not.
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violet_neko
Jun. 10th, 2011 05:26 pm (UTC)
she said she would fix it today. it really is pretty but not worth all this hassle.
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kappyjeanne
Jun. 10th, 2011 04:48 pm (UTC)
Being an artist is undoubtedly, very challenging. Especially if you're doing it for work. She is not the only one who is drawing to keep food on her table (or to pay vet bills), and her business ethic and excuses are just getting tiresome.
There are other artists out there who are working through the same, if not more dire circumstances. They aren't terribly backlogged, they admit to fault and they're eager to please. Her circumstances are being used as an excuse, when progress and resolution comes much easier when you aren't consistently blaming your surroundings and circumstances for your wrong-doings.

Some people just aren't cut out for art as full time work. I recognized this in myself a long time ago, and so I kept my full time job, instead. Abilities and skills are one thing, but if you can't keep a business ethic your skills aren't going to do you much good for very long.

Is something keeping you from asking for your money back now? After this display and her error (and refusal to fix it), do you really want to continue business? I'd say this is appropriate terms to end the transaction, in all honesty.



Edited at 2011-06-10 04:50 pm (UTC)
violet_neko
Jun. 10th, 2011 05:30 pm (UTC)
she didn't refuse to fix it just didn't acknowledge my notes about the issue and instead came at me with new guilt. I know she is broke and cant pay me back without suckering someone else out of money so I am giving her more time. I have waited a over a year for the first things which were a print and a traditional piece she lost in the move and never told me about. I can wait a little longer I wish I didn't have to hassle her though and that she would just say hey they will be done by this date or some such. I do that for my commissioners.
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jono_m
Jun. 10th, 2011 05:00 pm (UTC)
I think the page shout is appropriate even though FA rules don't exactly like that, but it's better than someone spamming it with "go here to find astray on inkbunny" (which I'm glad to see was cleared out) like the mods do except with the 24hour suspension notice.

Sorry to hear that you've had troubles with her and that she even got the name wrong, she really needs to put a journal up when "finals" or whatever come up rather than just leaving and hoping all her current commissioners forget all about buying stuff from her.
onesteptwo
Jun. 10th, 2011 06:57 pm (UTC)
It might be me, as I've never been to university and I know they all have their own rules, but aren't the majority of schools done finals in like May? I know I'm always surprised when a friend mentioned they finished their finals and our locals high schools haven't even started exams.
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filthy_animal
Jun. 10th, 2011 05:05 pm (UTC)
Wow, boo-hoo, she has FINALS. Oh cry me a river, I know some folks who are literally starving and DESPERATE for commissions. Hell, they WISH they could afford school. Suck it up, Starfinder. YOU took on the work, it's YOUR job to complete it correctly.

I'd say just ask for your money back. And some for the unusable badge she's refusing to correct. :/
werewolfofwater
Jun. 10th, 2011 06:17 pm (UTC)
this

hell finals aren't even usually that big a deal for me. I know they can be stressful for a lot of people, but it could be a lot worse like you said.
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violet_neko
Jun. 10th, 2011 05:26 pm (UTC)
update
Apparently she pays attention to this or is psychic she just noted me to say she would fix the badge name. Woot one hurdle down. now just a lickie poof and a realism icon to go.
kayla_la
Jun. 10th, 2011 05:31 pm (UTC)
Re: update
She does watch us, and is even a member. She's always been welcome to try to defend herself on here, she just never does (and occasionally sends whiteknights instead) because she knows we won't fall for her garbage and that she can't boohoo her way out of her responsibilities.

But she isn't banned from here or anything. She never has been. She replied to a couple of the first posts about her years ago, I believe. But it's really saying something that she's such a constant problem that I even was able to write that sentence. I don't know why she doesn't realize her behaviour is unacceptable.
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ciderfox
Jun. 10th, 2011 05:46 pm (UTC)
So now she's just moved to inkbunny to scam people there? I'm assuming she still owes a lot of FA people work :I

Someone needs to sue her seriously AUGH
sigilgoat
Jun. 10th, 2011 06:17 pm (UTC)
I hope the IB admins know about the situation too..
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kayla_la
Jun. 11th, 2011 12:46 am (UTC)
Yes, she is also those. She occasionally tried to hide under different names but her style is just distinct enough (despite her occasional tracing issues) that nobody was ever fooled for very long.
dinogrrl
Jun. 11th, 2011 12:23 am (UTC)
Sorry to hear about this.

But I'm not surprised in the slightest.
marus_puppy
Jun. 11th, 2011 01:46 am (UTC)
"That comment was entirely unnecessary and does nothing to help me."

Sorry that the truth hurts, Star.

From the comments I've seen, the OP has been backing Star pretty much the whole time from at least the standpoint of "I've been waiting for this, but she's been in contact and she's making good on it so far!" and Star turns around and unleashes this guilt-tripping (and totally unwarranted) note when there has been zero contact on her part. It takes all of five minutes to create a journal saying "Contact will be scarce for a while because of finals, sorry!" That's seriously it. One sentence. I'm appalled, but not surprised, as unfortunate as that is.
qzurr
Jun. 11th, 2011 04:55 am (UTC)
Something never change...

She still didn't draw a commission for my friend, and she already got the 900 USD for this art, 5 years ago!!!!!!!!!!
spiffystuff
Jun. 11th, 2011 06:58 am (UTC)
Small claims court?
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anjel_kitty
Jun. 11th, 2011 07:25 am (UTC)
Geeze...hasn't she been in the same degree program for almost 5 years now? What is she getting this degree in anyway, and when she gets it will it mean she will stop taking people's money for commissions only half of which she will finish?
minimalismo
Jun. 11th, 2011 06:02 pm (UTC)
Artists
What pisses me off the most about some artists (like Starfinder) is that they are ignorant. Poor communication skills shows a lack of respect for your customer (you know... the ones who pay your bills and expenses?)

If you are going to be late on something, let your customer know well in advance and learn how to not take orders if you can't get your time management up to par. It's not called customer service for nothing. If you can't take the heat, get out of the damned kitchen.

There are plenty of artists out there that can handle what artists like Starfinder can't, so she had better realize that competition is stiff and that she's not God's (or whatever deity people worship) gift to the world.
saitenyo
Jun. 11th, 2011 06:47 pm (UTC)
You definitely didn't do anything wrong here. It is extremely rude and unprofessional of her to try to make herself the victim and place the blame on you when she's the one who didn't finish the work you paid for. You got crappy customer service and are entirely withing your rights to say so publicly. That's business. It's fairly clear at this point that she can't handle art as a business like a mature professional, and that's her problem, not yours.

I wouldn't have apologized if I were you. Nor sympathized. That's exactly what she was trying to do. She's being manipulative and trying to guilt people into feeling sorry for her so she doesn't have to be accountable for her mistakes.

Edit: Basically what I am saying is you should be firm with her. Don't let her guilt/manipulate you anymore. You are in the right here and she is in the wrong. There's no way around that. Don't let her manipulate and try to control this situation when she's the one who needs to take action to make this right.

Edited at 2011-06-11 06:49 pm (UTC)
violet_neko
Jun. 11th, 2011 11:42 pm (UTC)
she doesn't ever talk to me without trying to guilt me about something its like the world is against her and everything is somebody elses fault.
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