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EDIT: Thanks for the info guys. I decided to decline the offer.

I just got an email from someone and I'm honestly not sure what to think of it as I've never gotten such an email before.

"Dear Neko,

Hello my name is ___ and I work for a documentary film company in Canada called Fanboy Confessional Inc. /  Markham Street Films Inc.

I am contacting you because we would like to ask permission to use the attached illustration in a documentary we are currently producing.

It is a 6 part TV series for the Space channel in Canada (similar to Syfy in the US) that celebrates the best of fan culture. Each episode follows self-professed Fanboys (and Fangirls) – pop culture enthusiasts and aficionados - as they navigate the inner-workings of their sci-fi worlds. The objective is to celebrate these people as ultimate fans and to highlight the DIY, community-building aspect of these creative subcultures.
I would like to stress that this is a fun, lite portrait, with absolutely no negative commentary being shed on anyone, in any way. It's a celebration of this man and the great work he does.

I look forward to hearing from you.

All the best,"

The picture they attached is a small version of this one: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/5651415/
I'm not sure what to think. Is it a scam, should I say no or yes? This picture was a commission, so should I be getting permission from the commissioner as well?

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Apr. 30th, 2011 01:19 am (UTC)
That's... Interesting. O.o

I mean, it's nice that the show puts emphasis on portraying these sorts of things into a positive light, but at the same time... If they are going to be doing an episode about furries I really would be concerned about, well... Who from the fandom is actually volunteering to do it.

I think whether saying no or yes is really your call; personally, before making any decisions on it I'd say message the commissioner you did that picture for (which is really cute, by the way!). Who knows? Maybe they're the one volunteering with the show and that's why the person who emailed you is asking about that particular pic?
Apr. 30th, 2011 01:23 am (UTC)
Well, Markham Street Films has a website and it appears to be legit:


Whether it's an actual representative of that company or someone simply using their name is another matter.

If at all possible, I'd ask them for more details about what the show will encompass, how your image will be used, etc.--specifics that can help you make your decision. If they're not willing to spend the time convincing you that this will be a valuable use of your work, then I'd say forget about it.
Apr. 30th, 2011 01:24 am (UTC)
First of all, I definitely would ask the commissioner before you say yes. You do still own the copyright on it, but it would be kind of a jerk move to have this picture of a person's personal character be aired on TV without letting them be in on the decision. I'd imagine that would lose you a ton of business.

Next, if you are seriously thinking about doing it, ask them to provide a contract for you to review. If they're legit, it'll go into whether it can be shown on TV, online media, etc. and just generally look like a contract as opposed to "Xan I use this? Yay, thanks."

Personally, I would be hesitant as they don't seem to be paying you, and the way they introduce themselves. You're Canadian, and that's generally on your userinfo. Why would they be explaining a Canadian TV channel to a Canadian by comparing to a channel in the US?
Apr. 30th, 2011 01:57 am (UTC)
*can I use this

I can't type.
Apr. 30th, 2011 01:27 am (UTC)
They did contact you verses stealing it / just adding it to their video and it's not porn. It's a well done illustration.

Looking at their promo video it doesn't look bad.
Apr. 30th, 2011 01:43 am (UTC)
I only have one bit of advice to give, and it may not be the most helpful piece (I do second what celarania said re: asking the commissioner, at least):

No contract and no pay, no permission.

It may seem like a really cool thing that someone's interested enough in your work to use it on a project of their own (and may seem like it'll bring exposure for you), but if they're not willing to form a contract and, more importantly, pay you for it, they're just looking for free work (and if they refuse to even discuss a price you can be sure they'll move on to another artist, and then another, and then another, until they find someone willing to let them use it for free). And given they claim to be a legit company and should by all rights have a budget for their documentary, that's simply not acceptable.
Apr. 30th, 2011 01:49 am (UTC)
I forgot to think about pay. How much would something cost?
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Apr. 30th, 2011 01:55 am (UTC)
This sounds REEEAAAALLY suspicious...
Apr. 30th, 2011 02:03 am (UTC)
i can at least vouch that they are a real thing. space runs this kind of stuff a lot and they're a big presence at toronto conventions.
Apr. 30th, 2011 02:11 am (UTC)
From a personal standpoint, I'd definitely ask the commissioner if it were okay first.

Although it's your art, it's still their character, and I personally would be a little miffed if a piece of my character randomly showed up somewhere without permission from me.
Apr. 30th, 2011 02:49 am (UTC)
I knew this sounded familiar. This company came onto the AnthroCon forums two years ago asking for interview subjects. After looking through some of the projects they've produced, this was declined very quickly as their senstationalism came apparent...


I'd be extremely wary of these people if I were you.
Apr. 30th, 2011 02:53 am (UTC)
Actually, to correct myself, if it were me, I wouldn't want anything to do with them.
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Apr. 30th, 2011 05:04 am (UTC)
Wow, I am REALLY glad that you asked here, now that I've read through the comments...

unfortunately, because a lot of artists love the idea of exposure, these guys are going to get someone whether we like it or not. :( They always do.

As a non-furry but supportive of the people in this fandom, it steams me up how easy it is for exploitative media to get a hold of any person for any reason and then tweak the results to suit their own ratings.

If their past "gems" are any indication, their coverage of your fandom is not going to be sugar-sweet. Best to tell them you'll get exposure in your own way -- one that doesn't throw your friends and family under the bus!
Apr. 30th, 2011 03:02 pm (UTC)
Just to add to the conversation: http://unclekage.livejournal.com/122924.html

Apr. 30th, 2011 04:13 pm (UTC)
Some person had went on the Tyra Banks show, I remember it because the family I had that knew I was furry suddenly blew up my phone and was not too pleased. It was a girl and she was a f-...well, you know. The sort who did adukt things in suit. Heck, her murrsuit wasn't even decent looking and she said all manners of terrible things herself, wasn't tricked into anything and was more than happy to tell everyone furry fandom is all a bunch of perverts and everyone likes kid porn and porn and mass 'yiffing' and oi...I never before hated someone so much.
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May. 4th, 2011 02:45 pm (UTC)
I would refuse, because every time furries are presented to the public it turns into a fiasco.
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