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original post here: http://community.livejournal.com/artists_beware/395754.html?thread=13305322

Went into her latest livestream and confronted her, nicely, about a refund or her posting the piece. She cleared the text I'd written and said how rude it was of people to 'disrupt' her stream. ffft. Still no WIP or refund. WTF does on have to do to force her hand?
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connorgoodwolf
Apr. 13th, 2011 03:27 pm (UTC)
So accepting new business and taking in money is more important than completing current projects? Interesting!

Other than posting to her online profiles, there are only a couple of other methods which I could recommend. 1) Call her and/or two 2) Contact her through her friends in a nice way.
cesarin
Apr. 13th, 2011 05:41 pm (UTC)
Its interesting how she hasnt changed a tiny bit, she's been doing this for.. what?.. 6 years by now?
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dazen_cobalt
Apr. 13th, 2011 03:27 pm (UTC)
Why hasn't anything been done about her yet? Fa isn't going to ban her because she's a popufur artist. I'm starting to think the only way you and others are gonna get your are is by banning together and doing small claims court. However I have a feeling that would be like trying to wrangle cats :X
kayla_la
Apr. 13th, 2011 03:33 pm (UTC)
I've been talking to witchiebunny about this and she needs to go through dragoneer, who I guess has been unresponsive about it. I think she's angry at me so I've been making an effort not to bother her, but last I'd talked to her, she told me she was going to talk to dragoneer because she was tired of Star's crap.
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nauta
Apr. 13th, 2011 03:31 pm (UTC)
I'm surprised she hasn't come to you with the "remove your post from AB and I'll refund your money" like she did to me about two years ago.
dazen_cobalt
Apr. 13th, 2011 03:59 pm (UTC)
even if she did do that, post can't be deleted anymore from ab.
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gizagiza
Apr. 13th, 2011 03:38 pm (UTC)
Yeah, unfortunately, you're pretty screwed at this point, like me.
deathweasel
Apr. 13th, 2011 03:42 pm (UTC)
You should probably give up. I'm sorry.
cesarin
Apr. 13th, 2011 05:51 pm (UTC)
why is everyone suggesting giving up? that is letting her win and will boast her scamming job.
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ellonwye
Apr. 13th, 2011 03:44 pm (UTC)
Man it's so rude of the people she has scammed to confront her about it.

That really should tell people everything they need to know about her. What a joke she is.
leahtaur
Apr. 13th, 2011 04:40 pm (UTC)
In her new submissions and recent journals, she keeps talking about working on her backlog as well as taking on all these new commissions, but I sure haven't seen it happening. :/ I'm sorry this has happened to you.
selunca
Apr. 13th, 2011 06:51 pm (UTC)
I wondered about this when I saw her most recent journal on FA offering more commissions, and yet still people are biting.

I also loled at her saying how FA was "dead"....I think most people have gotten the idea shes a scammer.
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ukthewhitewolf
Apr. 13th, 2011 05:03 pm (UTC)
1: Have huge backlog
2: Take new commissions as well
3: Only finish the ones you can be bothered drawing
4: ???????
5: PROFIT!

Silliness aside, I'm really sorry you're stuck in this situation. :/
It seems about the only way is to keep hounding her until she gets fed up of hearing from you, although that doesn't always work either.
teahound
Apr. 13th, 2011 10:49 pm (UTC)
Oh don't forget insisting that people warning of her bad behavior are 'harassing customers'!

http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/2253062/
"If anyone does comment here to reserve a slot instead of e-mailing like they should, I'll save the info and then hide the comment to protect my commissioner from being harassed by others."
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anjel_kitty
Apr. 13th, 2011 06:35 pm (UTC)
That's really awesome the community came together to intervene on your behalf before you lost all that money. I guess we can only hope this pattern continues so more people are spared, or at least that more people find out about her history before throwing more money at her. But then I guess she'll always entice new naive people into commissioning her regardless of how easy it is to do just a slight bit of market research on her.
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marus_puppy
Apr. 13th, 2011 05:22 pm (UTC)
I agree with the people who've said to contact some other shafted parties, gather your evidence, and take her to court. Even if one person is in the same state as her, I'm sure that they can present all the evidence you've got and hopefully get all the money back that she owes.
gizagiza
Apr. 13th, 2011 05:39 pm (UTC)
At this point, there's probably enough shafted customers of hers that a class action suit could be filed. :P
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silverfalln
Apr. 13th, 2011 07:19 pm (UTC)
I need a "This." icon. It was also very hard for me to not stoop to insults, as that's about all he deserves. I kinda think its up to everyone that's been burned by Starfinder to get together and take her to court, since nothing else will be done to her.
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puritikoneko
Apr. 13th, 2011 10:51 pm (UTC)
I was in her stream for a little while, actually, to observe. I didn't screen cap anything, but someone (I'm not sure if it was the OP) came in and asked her (nicely) if she would upload their art. I'm not sure if the person was banned or if they left immediately afterwards, but they disappeared.

After that, she cleared the user's messages, and then proceeded to completely flush the stream's chat text, then stated that she wanted a "fresh" stream while she worked on something else.

I wish I had screen capped it, I had a feeling I should have. -_-;
mattdawolf
Apr. 14th, 2011 01:11 am (UTC)
yeah, that was me.
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martes
Apr. 13th, 2011 11:35 pm (UTC)
I'm just curious how she expects to find the time to do all these commissions. She posted saying she has classes 6 days a week (anyone know what exactly she's supposed to be studying?). I assume all the classes have homework, reading material and study time. Plus she claims she volunteers 10 hours a week at an animal shelter. Add in time for sleeping and eating, and I don't see much time left to do commissions, unless she's using something that allows you to go 3 or 4 days without sleep.
kayla_la
Apr. 13th, 2011 11:39 pm (UTC)
It doesn't really make a difference when you're going into it knowing you won't even need to do a lot of them, and people will still keep giving you money because furries.
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gizagiza
Apr. 14th, 2011 01:02 pm (UTC)
Hey OP, do you think you could make this public, so everyone can see? Or was it left friends-only intentionally?
logosh
Apr. 14th, 2011 06:25 pm (UTC)
... REALLY need to get an A_B FA group
foxhack
Apr. 14th, 2011 06:53 pm (UTC)
Judging from what I've seen mentioned here and other places, it would probably be banned because it was created to "harass" artists.
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