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Beware of Ticer

So, I just got back from FWA and I have someone that I believe all artists should beware of. Ticer.

Saturday -

So on Saturday I participated in the FWA fursuit parade, and as I was getting myself together again, a fellow came up and asked for a comic commission. Ticer. I don't normally do comic commissions at cons but what he had in mind was a fairly simple comic along the lines of my squish cat comics ( in order to make this TOTALLY clear, he SPECIFICALLY pointed to these comics: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/704469/ http://www.furaffinity.net/view/413799/ ) So... very simplified characters, short stories... you get the idea. Ticer didn't speak English very well but I understood the basics just of what he wanted. His character pets his friend's head, but the hair is too spiky and it hurts him. So he gets scissors and cuts the spikes off his shocked friend's head. Seemed easy enough. I give him the price and he says he will pay half then, and half once the comic is done. I tell him that's fine, but Ticer still only gives me about 1/4th the total price of the comic. I tried to get the full 1/2 price out of him but he didn't seem to understand what I'm asking for so I just dropped the issue as I had other customers in line. I asked for references (which was like pulling teeth from a crocodile) and he asked when I can have it done. I tell him that if I get to work right away, I might have a sketch for him by the end of the day, but chances are I wouldn't. He insists that he needs the comic quickly and I tell him that I will work on it that night and try to get it to him as fast as humanly possible. He comes by several more times before the dealer's den closes, obviously irate that I don't literally crap art and I have the audacity to work on other people's commissions without giving my full attention to his. Because I am a moron, I see none of this as red flags.

That night, I fully intend to get all of my con homework done, but my arting hand has other ideas. Towards the end of sketching out the comic, my hand rewards me with shooting pain whenever I try to even loosely hold a pencil. I put everything up and go to bed, convinced that I'll get up early in the morning to finish everything.

Sunday -

My plan to get up early has failed. x.x;;; I was exhausted, sore, and my hand was still on strike against me. I got to the dealer's den right as it was opening and took a pain pill so I could keep working. I explained to all of the overnight sketchbook commission people that my hand seized up the night before and they were all very understanding. I'm still getting all of their sketchbook work done, so it's not a huge deal. I don't see the comic commissioner, and I'm thankful for that because then I could finish up his comic before he knows I never did it the night before. I end up pretty happy with the results, and a friend of mine insists that I should have charged more. Other folks come around and comment on how cute it is and that the commissioner is just going to love it. More work, more soreness... I take another pain pill right as Ticer returns for his work. I happily had it over and... nothing. He simply stares at it. I try to work on some other things so as to not waste time in the awkward silence and finally he announces that it is all wrong. He thought it would be better. He says he can't even tell what is going on. He thought it would be more... "Anime" (???) I try to be professional and ask him if he wants his down payment back if he is so dissatisfied. He ignores my comment and points out more of what I have done wrong, saying a lot of "what is this?" and how he thought it would be more like "this." and he gestures to some other comic pages I have done. Specifically, he gestures to pages like http://castleofcards.com/archive/172/Castle_of_Cards_Chapter_6_A_Small_Favor/Page_8 and http://castleofcards.com/archive/172/Castle_of_Cards_Chapter_6_A_Small_Favor/Page_4. Ticer says he wants the comic done "properly." I tell him that if he wants something like the color pages, that it will NOT be done by the con and that he will owe me more. He is silent so I again, offered to give him a refund on the piece, and he simply walked away.

So, of course I was upset. I was sore, angry, and stressed as hell. Someone else mentioned that this "Ticer" has a habit of being very disrespectful and rude to female artists in general... though I don't remember who told me that so I can't testify clearly if he does, in fact, have a history there. I just know what he pulled with me. :/ So... I guess work with this guy at your own risk.

EDIT: removed some of the more personal bits of this post, and here is a link to his gallery on FA: http://www.furaffinity.net/user/ticer/

I'm talking with Ticer right now and we are working it out.

EDIT AGAIN: I have been talking with Ticer and it has all been worked out now.

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hamburger
Mar. 22nd, 2011 08:44 pm (UTC)
You may want to place most of your story under a cut, it's a bit long. Thanks!
wyngaed
Mar. 22nd, 2011 08:53 pm (UTC)
It's not that long... I've seen much worse, anyway.
spiffystuff
Mar. 22nd, 2011 08:48 pm (UTC)
Yikes!
Just to be clear on what happened, he walked off with the comic AND only paid you 1/4 of the price?
mukichan
Mar. 22nd, 2011 09:03 pm (UTC)
This.

I'd like to know too! I personally wouldn't give him the comic at all until he's paid in full.
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ryunwoofie
Mar. 22nd, 2011 08:52 pm (UTC)
I shall avoid him like the plague.. Sorry for your experience, but thank you for the beware. :C
wyngaed
Mar. 22nd, 2011 08:55 pm (UTC)
That is really awful! That is super rude. I wonder if he really does have issues with speaking english, or if he just pretends so he can rip people off and act like a jerk...
origamigryphon
Mar. 22nd, 2011 09:02 pm (UTC)
http://www.furaffinity.net/user/ticer/

Looks like he knows english well enough to me.
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sigilgoat
Mar. 22nd, 2011 08:58 pm (UTC)
Thank you for sharing this, I'm so sorry it happened though, holy cow :/

Hopefully other artists will remember his name too 8|
corellian_ninja
Mar. 22nd, 2011 08:59 pm (UTC)
What a dickhead, I'm sorry :(
connorgoodwolf
Mar. 22nd, 2011 09:02 pm (UTC)
This
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stormslegacy
Mar. 22nd, 2011 09:25 pm (UTC)
I'm glad that you at least didn't let him walk away with the comic!

I feel ya on the tendonitis thing. Aside from pain meds I found LUSH's Fair-Trade Foot Lotion to be helpful because of the arnica oil. It's expensive but one pot has lasted me more than a year. Lastly, if you aren't already get a hand brace for sleeping with--it does wonders. Best not to push it in the future though, even $100 worth of sketches isn't worth permanent damage to your tendons. When I pushed it too hard once it took several months to recover, I'll never do that again o.o
suewithers
Mar. 22nd, 2011 10:07 pm (UTC)
I use a pair of compression crafter's gloves myself for long days. They keep the swelling down and things more in line. I get re-occurring bruises in my palm if I don't watch what I do on the long days, but then again my longest days are charity 24 hour drawing events and 12 hours of free comic book day sketches for food bank donations.
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scardykat85
Mar. 22nd, 2011 10:29 pm (UTC)
In all honesty, and not to sound too furry but I doubt I can avoid that, I've never met a decent black and orange tiger. To be avoided imho.

Sounds like this guy feels he is entitled to be recognized and given special treatment. It's really unfortunately typical of a lot of people. All I know this guy for is him ripping his suits crotch in a dance competition.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fe1wq7uCOC0
starcharmer
Mar. 22nd, 2011 10:48 pm (UTC)
One of my very good friends is a black and orange tiger, he's a sweetheart. :) Don't let alllll the bad black and orange tigers ruin tigers for you! ;D
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ichigoneko33
Mar. 22nd, 2011 10:34 pm (UTC)
This if off topic, but got me wondering about something.

If someone isn't English, so either can't speak it well or write it well. Would it be rude of me to decline working with them?

I've had trouble working with commissioners in the passed when I couldn't understand them well nor them understand me. Nothing to do bad, but sometimes I'm not sure if I should take things on since I know it can get bad.
ryunwoofie
Mar. 22nd, 2011 10:43 pm (UTC)
I wouldn't think it to be rude to decline someone who couldn't speak proper or coherent English. I've had to decline a few who just made no sense, and I wouldn't want to mess up their commission due to miss-communication.
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drakenbyte
Mar. 22nd, 2011 10:53 pm (UTC)
Oooooooh that guy. :I Yea, I heard of some other things that he did at the con too, I'm sorry that it happened to you. :(
sashowind
Mar. 22nd, 2011 11:35 pm (UTC)
I won't try to defend what he did but there is one thing people have to remember, especially in a fandom that span's the globe. Its that each society has different norms. our friends joke that 'Ticer's biggest problem is that he is Russian. Literally russian. He does speak english well enough but doesn't understand certain phrases that you and i may take for granted. For example I told him once, when he was going to be working on a stage show, to 'break a leg'. And he wondered why I would wish a friend badly. He didn't understand that in our culture thats not considered a bad thing. The gap here is more cultural then it is language. But it probably is a combination of the two.
fatkraken
Mar. 22nd, 2011 11:52 pm (UTC)
he's from Russia, not Mars.

If you show someone a simple black and white comic and they quote you for a simple black and white comic, you don't get to be butthurt when you get a simple black and white comic. And if you don't know the English words for "pay half now" and "would you like a refund", probably best not to commission people through the medium of English. Plus the whole checking back every hour thing is rude wherever you come from
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ticerthetiger
Mar. 23rd, 2011 09:09 pm (UTC)
I didn't mean to be any rude? and why are you making it even worse like telling i'm a female artist hater ?
The problem is that you people yell and point at me but never even try to help me understand what is wrong and how somehting should be done and how not. once again - i didn't mean anything bad at all and i'm really sorry for the whole misunderstanding.
x_thor
Mar. 23rd, 2011 12:58 am (UTC)
Lame. Sounds like he treated you pretty disrespectfully. x.x This would have totally ruined my trip. Even if there had been a problem (which there wasn't, it was his fault for requesting something specific and then changing his mind), he shouldn't be able to get away treating you like that.. It's just rude and hurtful.

Ex: when he told you it needed to be done "properly" as if you had somehow done something wrong.


clickclackcat
Mar. 23rd, 2011 02:16 am (UTC)
I have to say... the comment about it needing to be done properly was prolly what got to me most. x.x
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mysterymoose
Mar. 23rd, 2011 01:08 am (UTC)
I heard he was also a real jerk to some other artists as well, he was very rude.
likeshine
Mar. 23rd, 2011 01:16 am (UTC)

oh no, not *that* guy..... ugh. a friend had issues with him as well.
rahni
Mar. 23rd, 2011 02:27 am (UTC)
that is the cutest rude icon i have ever seen.
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