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Perhaps you can help ramothe out

I had entered Zentrancon's (a small anime convention held at the end of Oct in Philly) mascot contest and was pleased to find out I got second place. Then the next day someone posts on the announcement of the winners post that the First place winner's (named Chaynz Childers) art is actually stolen art work of someone named deadsquierll


drake_anaya annouces that this art actually belongs somone named dead squirrell and provides a link
Well my friend ramothe is in charge of the whole contest and con merchandise, and has a conversation with the first place artist in question about the work. Rather than doing everything she can to prove it is her work she claims she "doesn't care about winning" "is pissed off because people are accusing" her of art theft, and wants her entry to be taken out.

Now does this sound suspicious to anyone? I'd post the full convo, but ramothe has it under flock and I don't want to break her confidentailty.

So I have two questions:
Do you guys thing this is art theft? And also do you know who this dead squierrl person is.
I am fairly sure since there is a question about it, this entry will be disqualified but I just wanted to put the word out there that this is a possible art theif and get ya'lls advice about it.
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Aug. 3rd, 2005 06:55 am (UTC)
that's completely blatant art theft. in its most concentrated form; reuploading an already finished image by another artist, and using it for personal gain.

i watch DeadRabbit on DA. she's a really neat artist and all of her work is her own creation. the second i went to the entries page (before reading this whole post) i recognized the piece immediately.

now, no offense to your friend, but Trixie doesn't even VAGUELY look like the mascot character. she has a big fluffy brown foxtail, not a skinny striped cat tail. she has a totally different haircut and has red dye in it. she's the wrong color. NOTHING about her is even vaguely simmilar to the intended character. HOW did your friend not notice? especially when the picture itself says Trixie?
Aug. 3rd, 2005 06:59 am (UTC)
Well I guess she was just so overwhelmed by how awesome the piece is she didn't investigate into it. I mean she put it up for vote and about 50 members voted for it to be first place, so she wasn't the only one who didn't take notice. I really loved the piece myself, so when I compared it to the real Fuko, I thought hmmm maybe this is just her take on Fuko? But yeah I had a feeling she was a stinking art theif, and seeing that you follow DeadRabbit for a while now, I believe you that she stole it from her
Do you know DeadRabbit personally? and Can you tell her that her pieces are being submitted by this person?
Aug. 3rd, 2005 07:04 am (UTC)
Just Take a Gander at Dead Rabbit's gallery.
It's obvious it's her own work. you can tell by the style.

Also, like I said, the other didn't even have an e-mail or gallery that we could look at.. in fact, I was rather dissapointed that Lj usernames or even galley links were put next to the artist's names.
(no subject) - armaina - Aug. 3rd, 2005 07:14 am (UTC) - Expand
Aug. 3rd, 2005 07:05 am (UTC)
i've already commented to DeadRabbit and linked her to this thread.

again, i apologize if i'm coming off alot harsher than i intend, but if i hold a contest for someone to draw me a little boy in a costume and someone enters the Mona Lisa... well i don't care how GOOD it looks; if it doesn't fit the theme of the contest, i'm going to get more than a little suspicious.

it's cases like these that make art theft so easy. if an image is really pretty, no one will know it's completely ripped, right? :/
(no subject) - armaina - Aug. 3rd, 2005 07:08 am (UTC) - Expand
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Aug. 3rd, 2005 02:32 pm (UTC)
The offending artist told me that the art piece was "a persian cat" which I wanted to believe. Since Fuko is a cat, therefore, I thought it was an okay submission. THe artist in questoin was a trusted friend of mine, and people who havae hung around her enough (also friends) have told me that she can sit and sketch nice looking art out right infront of their eyes- so there'd be no reason ever to think she'd NEED To steal somebody else's work thats what puzzles me! Also I'd seen a portfolio of her older work as well, so I had no reason to believe that it'd be used in a dishonest fashion.

Regarding use as a mascot, the contest was for fanart of the original mascot drawn by a fellow named Nathan Smith..and darn it if 'trixie' didnt look AWESOME on the teeshirt previews on cafepress before I discovered the truth and took all those images down.
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Aug. 3rd, 2005 07:00 am (UTC)
I don't suppose this 'deadsquirrle' character ever posted an art gallery when they submitted the work.
Also, with the lack of LJ user account, or e-mail, and my guess is the name is made up
someone just wanted the first place prize is what I think.
Aug. 3rd, 2005 07:03 am (UTC)
No deadsquierll is the real artist apparently. Chaynz Childers is the person who submitted the art to the contest, and thus is the art theif...
I should clarify that in the post
(no subject) - armaina - Aug. 3rd, 2005 07:06 am (UTC) - Expand
Aug. 3rd, 2005 02:27 pm (UTC)
I'd inform DeadRabbit, honestly.
Since it is her finished work that won it, why not ask her permission? Tell her the entire story?

If not, move to second place winner.
Aug. 3rd, 2005 02:33 pm (UTC)
I added deadrabbit's aim name to my list in hopes of catching the artist themself to talk to them..
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Aug. 3rd, 2005 11:31 pm (UTC)
i've sent her a link to this page, so hopefully she'll be aware of this whole mess. i'm going ot go see if i can find her email to give to the runners of the contest, too
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Aug. 4th, 2005 06:54 am (UTC)
she used it to win the contest, which as i understand it had a monetary prize.

it actually IS illegal, and this girl CAN be taken to court, though i doubt it's worth anyone's time or money since she has been stopped already.
Aug. 6th, 2005 07:28 am (UTC)
Enter Deadrabbit...

Wow...I'm amazed, angry, yet relieved. Relieved that all this was resolved. Thanks so much to you guys for taking care of it. The sad thing about this is that it's not so much of a shock cuz it's happened so many times before. In one case a few of my drawings were being auctioned off on Furbid and the thief actually managed to sell a couple prints. Luckily she was banned by the Furbid admin.

But anyhoot, I am forever grateful. Thanks so much <33

p.s. I'd like to see the other pic if anyone has a link to it...or if it's posted at all^^;
Aug. 6th, 2005 07:33 am (UTC)
nevermind....i thought that someone redrew Trixie and did some adjustments...or something...>_>;;
Aug. 11th, 2005 09:38 pm (UTC)
Ahh there you are! Yes I am so so so sorry about what happened. The only good thing that happened lately is that the girl came to me and freely confessed that she did in fact steal it. We all knew it anyway but at least she admitted her guilt...*sighs*
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