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Rule number two

Apparently some of you didn't get the memo.

So, to reiterate what has been said within the post in question:

Rule number two states:
Whatever happens in the community, stays within the community. Do not go to the offender's LJ or art site account and harass them, or contact them any other way if the matter under discussion does not regard you personally.

This includes harassing them at their place of employment or other means of income.  Making someone lose their main source of income in no way assists in the resolution of their commission issues.  Losing one's job does not exactly encourage one to spend time working on things already paid for that won't bring in more money. 

This behavior goes well beyond simply harassing someone on a forum, and we moderators are taking a no-tolerance stance.  If provided with proof of a person's involvement in this type of behavior, we will permanently ban that person.  No three strikes.


And by the way, I'm gonna need those TPS reports by this afternoon.
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kerstin_orion
Dec. 4th, 2010 12:51 am (UTC)
Thaaanks...you made me almost snort my pizza.
(no subject) - duster - Dec. 4th, 2010 04:03 pm (UTC) - Expand
westly_roanoke
Dec. 4th, 2010 12:44 am (UTC)
Haaate for you.

And by the way, I'm gonna need those TPS reports by this afternoon.

I spent ALL DAY working on metrics!! ALL DAY! AAAAAGH!!!

(In other news, thank you for making the post, what might have went on would be uncool if someone actually did that.)
kerstin_orion
Dec. 4th, 2010 12:49 am (UTC)
Reports are, someone may have actually done so, hence the multi-mod response.

Edited at 2010-12-04 12:50 am (UTC)
lilenth
Dec. 4th, 2010 01:22 am (UTC)

There's already information leaking out that suggests that complaint is not as it was initially represented. Personally I wouldn't be surprised to learn that her employer (if she even has one) wasn't actually contacted by anyone.
I suspect if she really has faced backlash then it's very probable that the inclusion of her real name in posts, a name which is readily available from a number of sources may have led to either the employer or someone known to the employer learning about the artist's extremely questionable reputation since posts about her in AB appear fairly highly ranked in google.

With the amount of employers who do check up on their employee's online life? Only someone who has no clue how the internet works would never expect what they do online to never come to the attention of others. I've known more than one individual who has lost jobs due to their actions online endangering a companies reputation.

People have lost their jobs just due to putting up pictures publically on facebook featuring them taking drugs or drinking heavily in their time off.
kerstin_orion
Dec. 4th, 2010 01:32 am (UTC)
Whether or not it actually happened in this particular case, I am making it very plain that this kind of behavior will not be taken lightly.

An employer Googling an employee is on a different level from someone from Artist_Beware going directly to that employer. While I agree damning info on the person in question is readily available from A_B and sources other than A_B, I still do not want it sent directly to their employer by someone on here.
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celarania
Dec. 4th, 2010 01:39 am (UTC)
Woah, what happened?

Also, how does this fit in with someone in the military? I know in the past there was talk of the original commissioner going to them to inform them about their indebtedness or something like that (then again, that's still between A and B).
kerstin_orion
Dec. 4th, 2010 02:22 am (UTC)
A suggestion, which may have been carried out, to contact an artist's employer and point them to all of their past commission problems.

You make a good point. I will discuss the topic in general and that particular post with the other mods.
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msmanuscript
Dec. 4th, 2010 01:49 am (UTC)
Not sure if this is on topic?
Forgive me, but the Wiki confused me more. What are TPS reports? Does it play into the Star post, if so how? It's software, isn't it?
kerstin_orion
Dec. 4th, 2010 01:52 am (UTC)
Re: Not sure if this is on topic?
The memo comment and the TPS reports thing are from the movie "Office Space". Just injecting a bit of levity. :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_Space
Re: Not sure if this is on topic? - msmanuscript - Dec. 4th, 2010 01:56 am (UTC) - Expand
Re: Not sure if this is on topic? - teahound - Dec. 4th, 2010 12:32 pm (UTC) - Expand
Re: Not sure if this is on topic? - msmanuscript - Dec. 4th, 2010 09:58 pm (UTC) - Expand
chronidu
Dec. 4th, 2010 04:43 am (UTC)
Just out of curiosity, is there any proof anyone actually did go out of there way to do this, and that the employer didn't find it them self with a quick google search? If so disregard, I was just curious.
kerstin_orion
Dec. 4th, 2010 05:42 am (UTC)
No proof, but with or without it, the suggestion was still made, and we wanted to ensure everyone knew the consequences if they were caught at it.
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fenrirs_child
Dec. 4th, 2010 06:26 am (UTC)
out of curiosity, would that include confronting someone in the dealer's den at a con? not that i'm in any situation warranting it, but that was what came to mind when i though of it...
bladespark
Dec. 4th, 2010 06:39 am (UTC)
I'm pretty sure the rule isn't about confronting an artist when you are a customer with a legit complaint, only with members who have nothing to do with it bothering the artist just because they've read about him/her.
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oceandezignz
Dec. 4th, 2010 06:52 am (UTC)
*coddles her red stapler in the corner, a little pouty she got to miss something obviously very very interesting*
teahound
Dec. 4th, 2010 12:33 pm (UTC)
Yeah... I'm gonna need that stapler back.
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zhivagod
Dec. 4th, 2010 11:15 pm (UTC)
Five bucks says this is all a massive setup to try to make the big stupid furries feel bad about bothering her about their 4 year old commissions. Don't we know how bad her life is?
kerstin_orion
Dec. 5th, 2010 06:47 am (UTC)
We mods aren't debating whether or not it happened, especially without any evidence. I suppose I should have opened with, "Apparently, some of you may not have gotten the memo." :)

I mentioned in comments above, I am trying to ensure that everyone is aware of the potentially serious consequences of breaking this rule, and the 'zero tolerance' policy (no 3 strikes).
shukivengeance
Dec. 5th, 2010 12:37 am (UTC)
I'll reiterate what I said on the FD2 post.
I asked I_K if he did it and he said "I don't have any information regarding Starfinder nor do I know who called her employers."
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