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Star/Astray/Cristina Penescu

New Update (Dec 21/2012):
Thought it was about time to update this.

Long story short after much dodging about and being blocked on most of her many alternate pages (DA etc) and a million excuses I finally got fed up, used the information that I had gathered (Thank you to those who helped me track her address down) I contacted the police department who then forwarded me to a different department that deal with her specifically. I have not as yet pressed any actual charges but I did get a good response on what to do should I still wish to go that route at some point.

I then took that information and confronted her with it to which she claimed she would 'finish' the art piece owed but was 'busy' etc. Of course as usual she claims she doesn't have much time and wasn't working on anything else, at which point I pointed out the MANY pieces she's been doing in the meantime on her DA, Inkbunny and other accounts. After this point she coloured in part of the sketch and provided me with what amounted to a well done and detailed bust, when the agreed upon merger from both the auction and the paid coloured sketch was to be for what the Auction first detailed (Full body, high detail with background). She then started claiming she wasn't working on anything else while at the same time going about her usual antics of accepting and posting lots of newer commissions and she continues to do so while once more refusing to finish what she owes.

At this point however I'm debating on just writing this off and leaving this here as a warning. Yes she's 'paid up' to some and seems to get far less complains now, but she's still at her old tricks and I doubt that will ever change.

Still not happy but honestly with my father's failing health and my attempts to get into the military it's no longer worth my time perusing. That said if anyone else ever has trouble with her in the future, feel free to contact me and I'll be more than happy to share what information I have gathered and archived.


Update:

So shortly after I sent her the message she got back to me and supposedly she forgot to contact me in regards to feedback on the sketch at the time. We've had a fair bit of back and forth since and a deadline was agreed upon for completion of the work. I suppose due to real life or some such this journal actually did not go up until some time after I'd had said communication with her yesterday so hopefully the timing of it wont confuse matters.

Still, I'm keeping the original bit down below.

In either case it seems there may well be some resolution to the situation in the near future. Ultimately, I've given her 6 months to finish up and I'll do what I can to give her what ever feedback she needs etc. I just wish things hadn't ever had to get to this point, but that's what it is.

Going by what I've seen however of her lately, it may well be just that people who she owes art or what ever to at this point just need to start trying to talk to her again. She's so far owned up to most of the outstanding work I've heard of, though not all. Again people shouldn't have had these issues to begin with. Still, it seems she's willing to deal with what ever backlog she has, even if it's only a few people at a time.



Original entry:

So here's a little update for everyone on what's been going on with Star and I.

Flatly put, she's been ignoring me, and once, some time ago posted a very, very crude sketch of ONE owed piece of art some time back, which I wouldn't have even known about had a friend of mine not pointed it out to me, as she never even mentioned it to me in anyway shape or form.

I last paid her on February 27th, 2010.

I have since given her official notice that I am instituting a deadline for completion of not just the one, but BOTH owed pieces of art by no later than February 27th 2011 in an acceptable manner (IE Produces the art owed at the level of quality initially agreed upon, not something she just rushed through). I have also notified her that should she fail to meet this deadline, I expect a full reimbursement for the money I paid her by no later than 6 months in either partial payments spread out over that 6 month period, or as a single lump sum. I have also indicated that I would accept a full refund at this time as termination of the agreement, and that I am not at present seeking interest on the money paid.

Now, I'm willing to accept some minor degree of negotiation on the matter, but not much given what I've come to learn of her past and present behaviour.

I also feel it's entirely fair to expect that given her present rate of completing brand new commissions, it's entirely reasonable to expect that she complete the artwork she owes me in a one year period. Doubly so when one takes into account the artwork she does under her real life identity.

Also, considering that she can afford to pay significant advertising fees in various professional art magazines, apparently regularly attends various artistic conventions and has numerous print accounts and other apparent sources of income, I flat out don't buy her stories of financial trouble, or otherwise feel that even if she has some financial issues, she's entirely capable of repaying me the money I paid her for the work.

Cause you know what? I'm sure as hell not rich either and I've got debts too.
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hellebore
Dec. 2nd, 2010 12:10 am (UTC)
I think this chick just needs blacklisted. Completely. She's run off with too much money ,been caught tracing and is simply rude.

Why people attempt to commission her is beyond me anymore. How do you plan to get a reimbursement ,seriously? Is it not past paypal's time limit? How can you force the money out of this woman without showing up at her house... I'd like to see people take her to court but there's so many unfulfilled threats on doing that sort of thing that people don't take it seriously anymore.

I would love a follow up to this in regards to a lawyer ,maybe to shake some sense into other artists who run off like this.

I'm sorry but this artist drives me nuts.
kayla_la
Dec. 2nd, 2010 12:18 am (UTC)
Well, hopefully witchiebunny will see this and can convince Dragoneer that this isn't getting any better, and she needs to be gone.
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qzurr
Dec. 2nd, 2010 12:22 am (UTC)
I wish the best for you, really...

Also that won't be lawyer after this, and you can get back your money and all... but if you need help about lawyer, I know someone for who this is the speciality, I will meet with him on friday...
I can ask what would be the best for you, or chance...
kesslan
Dec. 2nd, 2010 09:20 am (UTC)
I appreciate the offer but for now I'll see what winds up happening.
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growly
Dec. 2nd, 2010 12:29 am (UTC)
I think your terms are rather generous, good luck getting your artwork from her!
spiffystuff
Dec. 2nd, 2010 12:39 am (UTC)
Her financial situation and yours doesn't really matter - she's not entitled to your money if she hasn't done the work paid for! (just a peve based off her previous notes to someone - as if "I need money most" is some kind of justification for stealing. Nevermind that the debts she talks about all sound like they are due to her inability to manage finances)

As someone else said, I think your terms are way nicer than I would allow - why wait 6 months after the art deadline for a refund? But I dig that you're trying to be generous.
duster
Dec. 2nd, 2010 01:05 am (UTC)
Good to give her some wiggle room. Hopefully your generosity won't be wasted. Good luck!
ellonwye
Dec. 2nd, 2010 01:22 am (UTC)
Out of all the times she's been posted here, how many times has there been a good resolution?
kayla_la
Dec. 2nd, 2010 01:24 am (UTC)
Occasionally, she shits out a half-assed piece to make the commissioner go away. She used to also bully them into taking the post down, but I think she understands she can't do that anymore with the archive.

But a lot of the times it's 'Say something to look like I'm working on it and then forget about it until they come back again, proceed to barf out life story in hopes of sympathy'.

I'd say roughly 1/4 posts, the person gets something, but usually it's not what they wanted, but they take it so they don't have to deal with it anymore.

Edited at 2010-12-02 01:24 am (UTC)
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gizagiza
Dec. 2nd, 2010 01:33 am (UTC)
I've had problems with her too. I ordered a print from her - not even original art - almost a year ago and she has yet to send it out. Whenever I note her about it on FA she keeps saying she hasn't gotten a chance to send it out. She's been polite and apologetic in the past, so I've been lenient with her, but after reading this... screw her. I was always so supportive of her, too.
spiffystuff
Dec. 2nd, 2010 01:37 am (UTC)
Have you commented here in previous entries?
I seem to recall someone complaining they hadn't received a print they ordered from her in a long time in one of the other starfinder posts here, not sure if it was you or someone else.
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commodoremarie
Dec. 2nd, 2010 04:34 am (UTC)
I love how often she "forgets" shit. Constantly. Either she's got memory issues or, and pardon my language, but it is total bullshit. Guess where my money's at? The number of times I've seen her use that excuse - to me, to others, etc. - is ungodly.
obsidianwolfess
Dec. 2nd, 2010 05:11 am (UTC)
Sorry to hear this is going on. Wish there was something I could do. :\
bladespark
Dec. 2nd, 2010 05:24 am (UTC)
"Going by what I've seen however of her lately, it may well be just that people who she owes art or what ever to at this point just need to start trying to talk to her again."

Was this the "lately" where she swore she would never ever again take payment up front for a commission? Or perhaps it was the "lately" where she couldn't finish art because her pet had died (again)? Or maybe the "lately" where she berates the customer because she's in debt? All those have happened quite "lately."

Sorry, no. She's lied, and lied, and lied, and lied, and ripped off from people and stolen and traced, and lied some more, and at this point it's going to take a LOT more than her doing your commission by the deadline to even begin to repair her reputation.
commodoremarie
Dec. 2nd, 2010 05:28 am (UTC)
It's also worth adding that she's taken to deleting entries and journals when they have "sales" (auctions, "I'm taking x type of commissions," etc.) in them when they don't seem to garner enough bidding or she herself loses interest. At least it's not an actual commission she's taken money from, but she seems to "forget" things very quickly and views deleting a journal as "canceling" - even without notice.

Starfinder is pretty much epic trouble, and I see no chances of that ever changing.
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marus_puppy
Dec. 2nd, 2010 05:52 am (UTC)
Holy crap. I just took a look at Star's new FA page and I saw that she's been featured in someone's journal as an "artist needing financial assistance." I'm totally appalled by this, I think I may have to link that person to some of the journals here because really... This is not cool.
louveg
Dec. 2nd, 2010 06:19 pm (UTC)
I don't know...
I'm not aware of the details of her real life in any way and the last thing I'd want to do is defend the behavior. However I can easily see how one can fall into the trap of "hm... backlog commissioners want refunds. I don't have enough money. I'll take more commissions to finance that and finance a publicity campaign that will bring me more customers so I get more money..." and then get caught up in this cycle with always more commissions and less time to complete them and less money to refund.
Again, I'm not saying it's an ok thing to do, I'm just saying it seems like a rather easy trap to fall in.
So yeah, I'd be ready to believe she's needing financial assistance. By her own fault? Probably. But still. (as I said, I don't know enough about her personal life to judge whether she's wasting her money on luxury items and then complains she has none for food, if she's doing that intentionally, or what. I'm basing my theory on the assumption she's really trying to be honest, just failing at keeping her life organized)

HOWEVER when the same cycle has been going on for years after years, it's time to wake up and consider a change of career because clearly this is not working towards a solution. And this is the part where she fails, IMO. It seems so evident to us that there's no way this logic will work...
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likeshine
Dec. 2nd, 2010 06:22 am (UTC)

it has been my goal for a long time to never, ever be featured here.
westly_roanoke
Dec. 2nd, 2010 07:35 am (UTC)
::Features you as an awesome artist with wonderful communication skills!::
riftryu
Dec. 2nd, 2010 10:40 am (UTC)
Good luck, Kesslan. I really hope you will get your commission from her, especially since you are so generous with giving her more time to work on it.

It's kinda painful to see that Star hasn't changed at all over the years. She's really talented and could go far in the art world, if only she improved her attitude. At this point, I don't think I believe that she will ever change, though. It seems like she simply doesn't want to change.
martes
Dec. 2nd, 2010 03:36 pm (UTC)
She won't change because she doesn't have to, as long as suckers keep giving her business. I think she's been featured on this forum more than any other person, but people STILL commission her! If there was an organized boycott and she found her business drying up she might actually change. Or, God forbid, someone report her to the Better Business Bereau, file a fraud report at PayPal, or bring some other kind of legal action. I bet then she'd clean up her act in a hurry.
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ikirouta_fox
Dec. 2nd, 2010 09:20 pm (UTC)
Starfinder makes me SICK! She should be dragged to court.
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