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Warning: Remedial Comics

I've been meaning to post this up for awhile now. This is not so much a "doesn't pay" client as a "client with a bad attitude you should beware of."

The guy's name is Rob Tracy, writer of Remedial Comics, who goes by quikthnkr on deviantart.

I worked with him briefly before deciding that he was a little too picky for the pay he was offering. Then I ended up running into him again in February: http://flameraven.livejournal.com/273412.html

The reason I'm posting this now, is that he has yet again brought more drama to the table. He posts a spec ad on DA's Job Offers forum, which clearly states that the job needs to be paid; if not, it goes in Projects. Several people, including me, point this out to him, and he goes into full-on rant mode. Lulz ensue.

I will let his actions speak for himself: http://forum.deviantart.com/jobs/offers/1516790/

In short, don't work for this guy.


Update 10/05 Combining all the updates into one massive update here. So the day after the massive drama on dA, the one Rob gloated about winning, he apparently finds this post and gets upset, sending me a Cease and Desist e-mail (that was almost 3 pages long). Briefly worried and thinking he'd go away if I let things cool down, I locked this post and hid a few comments on my dA page.

Apparently this wasn't enough. On 10/3 he sent me another e-mail, saying locking the post so only "my friends" could see did not fit the C&D terms. He informed me that he'd be sending the legal documents out to LJ, dA, and a personal addressed he ripped off my resume. Any attempts by me to reason with him (like "nowhere do my actions constitute libel") have failed.

So the post is once again unlocked. Clearly I cannot reason with his vendetta against me. I tried, but failed.

I also found out last night that the post is also up on fandom_wank. Will he sue the entire Internet when he finds that post? Who knows!

Y'all enjoy the drama. I give up. ;)
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ocean_storm
Sep. 27th, 2010 07:19 pm (UTC)
Wow, that was extremely lulz to read. His never ending 'It's just your opinion!' baaaawing is classic. The guy is out of his mind.
cesarin
Sep. 27th, 2010 08:29 pm (UTC)
three fully colored comics a week for 15?
WHAT THE HELL IS THIS DUDE SMOKING? o_O
westly_roanoke
Sep. 27th, 2010 08:34 pm (UTC)
I dunno about you, but I can TOTES live on $90 a month.

Cant you?

-Westly, who's rent is over $700/month
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epiceternity
Sep. 27th, 2010 08:33 pm (UTC)
I'm sorry but- "And lasty... at least I know how to spell flavor and color properly."

... *the Brit dies laughing*


Ah, another 'pay when published' project, oh the joy, just what the world needs.
purpule
Sep. 28th, 2010 04:29 pm (UTC)
The Brits, the Irish, and the person who can see through "YEAH WELL, AT LEAST I CAN TIE MY SHOES!" kind of playground tactics can die laughing! Seriously, how does anyone over the age of 15 think that's a way to win an argument? Let alone a debate that concerns business and money!

Also, is that a direct quote? Because if it is, deliciously enough there's an "l" missing from that lastly haha!
duster
Sep. 27th, 2010 09:05 pm (UTC)
15 dollars per inked and colored comic (A WEEK) plus wallpapers, graphics, and other extra goodies for no pay. Pardon my French, but are you fucking kidding me? That comes out as... what, 2 bucks an hour or something?

Sounds like another entitled kid who wants to be the next Penny Arcade and doesn't get the time and effort that goes into comics.
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foxombie
Sep. 27th, 2010 09:07 pm (UTC)
He's so arrogant and sure this is going to work. He thinks that he's telling a great story and that the publishers will lap it up and that the storytelling will change lives, and it shouldn't be about the money - he has no idea how the real world works.

I love that he's saying that the artists are only doing 5 measly sample pages for free to send off to publishers. I did the colour work for 5 measly sample pages a while ago and I got paid $75 a page. :P
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kamakru
Sep. 27th, 2010 09:08 pm (UTC)
Wow, the cups of stupidity over-floweth with that one.
That whole thing piled up because he couldn't accept that he simply put his ad in the wrong forum :/ Sad. Very sad.
Apparently the rules are "just your opinion" 8D
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coyote_feathers
Sep. 27th, 2010 09:10 pm (UTC)
This guy makes me rage, not only as an artist but as a writer, too. Not all writers are as egocentric and oblivious to the artistic process (in fact, very similar to that of a writer), but UGH does he do a really great job of making writers look like assholes.

Would he writer three chapters a week for $15.00? Probably not. How dare I suggest such a thing!
lilenth
Sep. 27th, 2010 09:13 pm (UTC)

I will never understand why aspiring writers often think that they're so amazing that we should be willing to work for them for nothing or don't realise that good artists of the level they want to work with can literally have their pick of writers because there's so many writers out there.

Anyone can write, much like anyone can draw, people who do it well however are not common, good writers still often outnumber good artists. Some writers however seem to think their their quill/keyboard is made of gold and they are the next Stan Lee/Tolkien/insert an awesome famous writer.

I actually found the comic he was wittering on about doing for gutters, it's here: http://www.the-gutters.com/comic/18-corey-kramer I'm not especially impressed, the writing is nothing to write home about to be honest, it's supposed to be poking fun at the comics tendency to kill off and bring back characters when sales flop but I've seen better jokes made by the comic artists themselves, a writer should come up with better if he wants to be taken seriously.
westly_roanoke
Sep. 27th, 2010 09:45 pm (UTC)
I've seen that joke done before in an actual dead tree format comic.

No kidding, the exact same joke, done 10 years ago...

Wow.
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fix_the_spade
Sep. 27th, 2010 10:14 pm (UTC)
Well, he's a professional, I'll give him that.

It's just not the profession he thinks he's in...
kohaku_chimaera
Sep. 27th, 2010 10:17 pm (UTC)
http://comments.deviantart.com/18/1516790/1679598979

How did I know he was going to bash my art? Haw.

These kinds of people are so depressingly predictable. :/
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raeraesama
Sep. 27th, 2010 10:22 pm (UTC)
Oh, HIM. I thought his name sounded familiar...he runs the Webcomics Community forum. Over the course of which he essentially told another webcomic artist to shut down their new site(specifics here) because he wanted people to congregate to his own webcomic community. I left his forum because I felt his attitude poisoned the atmosphere.
lilenth
Sep. 27th, 2010 10:24 pm (UTC)

Wow, such a pleasant individual. This beggars the question why anyone is willing to work with this guy.
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armaina
Sep. 27th, 2010 10:32 pm (UTC)
- Says he's not hiring anyone for a job
- Posts request in Job Offers

<______________>

That aside, these are definately the worst kind of people to work with for anything. I really hope no other artists get suckered into this and he just gives up.
sunhawk
Sep. 27th, 2010 10:41 pm (UTC)
Ha ha what a MAROON!! XD
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fastbreak333
Sep. 28th, 2010 07:15 am (UTC)
Because if you disagree with him, you are obviously an idiot. All those fancy words and sensible logic? To him it's Idiotese unless you agree with him.
mandyseley
Sep. 27th, 2010 11:48 pm (UTC)
Absurd probable pay and expectations aside, I HATE it when people take that kind of tone. "I am a professional. I am a serious person with a serious project looking for only serious artists who are serious about their seriously serious work and if you don't get that, you just don't understand anything, so I need to talk down to you until you realize I am seriously right... and being a serious professional means I don't have to be nice or personable. Manners are for kids not serious adults like me."

As an artist who openly admits to not really caring if my work is "taken seriously," maybe I just don't "get it."
thaily
Sep. 28th, 2010 08:35 am (UTC)
Seriously ;)
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