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Edit: Everything has been resolved! I told them of my concerns and they appologized and said they didn't really the troubles they could be doing and will try harder to be more communicative in the future. The commission has now been paid for as well.


I have a bit of a dilemma and I'm not too sure what to do. The artist's name will not be said, at least not yet.

About a month ago, both me and my friend had a some cash in our paypals. I found an artist we both liked and decided to put in info for a commission. I had first contacted them in Gaia asking if they did commissions and found that they were doing a time of 100 picture challenge for 10$.

I didn't get a reply to me putting the info in the journal, so when he posted another journal, I commented on it and asked if he had seen the comment and where and when to send payment. No reply. After a while, I decided he wasn't going to do them and I told my friend. He spent the money on something on etsy instead. I woke up this morning and checked my submissions and low and behold, the picture for my friend was done. I hadn't been notified at all though, unless he notified my friend, even though I'm the one who gave him the info in the first place.

The picture looks great and I'm willing to pay the artist for his time, but I feel really put off, especially now that I'm going to have to pay for my friend. When I checked the artist's page today, I saw I was on a list, but I never knew and I don't think it's my responsibility to find lists to make sure I'm getting the commission, especially when I had asked about it and didn't get a reply.

I admit  I should have tried to contact him a bit more then that though.

Edit: I was able to go check my friend's FA page. He hasn't gotten any notification from the artist either, meaning he wouldn't have known it was finished.
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alexds1
Sep. 16th, 2010 05:04 pm (UTC)
Lucky for him that you are a responsible person and were willing to pay him... with that lack of communication I don't know if I would have been as accommodating.
ichigoneko33
Sep. 16th, 2010 05:07 pm (UTC)
Well, I'd rather be seen as a good commissioner and not a scammer. While I do feel a bit unfair to pay, at least for my friend's piece, it's possible they honestly don't realize they did anything wrong, which is why I'm kinda at a loss of if I should just let it go or not.

I haven't yet paid, since I'd like advice first, and I haven't been contacted, but ya.
kayla_la
Sep. 16th, 2010 05:08 pm (UTC)
Personally, I don't think you OWE him payment. Nobody should ever do work without giving a confirmation. That said, good on you for paying him anyway, but you have every right to assume you were passed by and be miffed about the whole thing.
ichigoneko33
Sep. 16th, 2010 05:11 pm (UTC)
Ya, that's how I feel, like I shouldn't have to pay anything :< But, I really wasn't sure on the best route in this situation and what to say to him. Yay for artist beware lol
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korsetkoat
Sep. 16th, 2010 05:23 pm (UTC)
Did he contact you after the picture was done or was still silent? You didn't say.

I would personally be very upset if an artist never gave me confirmation, does the artwork in secret, and then tells me "Oop looks like you have to pay now." It feels like they just trapped you into buying something whether you wanted it or not to begin with. :/ If you don't tell me you're going to do my art or not, I'm not going to hold onto the money forever- I'll find another artist. As far as I'm concerned, he just gave your friend a gift rather than a commission.

You even asked if they saw the comment, a simple "Yes" would have taken only seconds to send.

That being said, if you're going to pay him, I'd still bring up the issue with the artist themselves. You might not get any explanations or reply but apparently he DOES read the stuff... It's better that a reasonable person tells him before he pulls the same stunt on someone else and they rage and the whole thing blows up.
ichigoneko33
Sep. 16th, 2010 05:25 pm (UTC)
I did actually "I hadn't been notified at all though, unless he notified my friend, even though I'm the one who gave him the info in the first place." Or, I may have written that part in a confusing way ^^;

My friend is at school right now, so when he gets home I'll ask him to check his FA to see if he got any reply from the artist.

Hmm, ya that's true. I'm a bit...I guess nervous? About discussing problems with artists, but sometimes it needs to be done.
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ichigoneko33
Sep. 16th, 2010 05:32 pm (UTC)
I guess I just kinda expected him talking to me, since I gave him the info for both me and my friend, but he didn't talk about my piece to me either. I know he didn't contact my friend since he didn't mention it and he would have, but I don't know if he sent the finished piece to him and will have to ask him when he gets back from school.
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lilenth
Sep. 16th, 2010 05:49 pm (UTC)

Personally I'd pay him IF it is actually the commission for your friend (since he did do the work) but also bring up how his lack of communication could have resulted in friction and issues since he did not confirm the commission was going ahead. He needs to learn that not talking to your client is a very bad idea.
shukivengeance
Sep. 16th, 2010 05:58 pm (UTC)
Paying for your friend's commission isn't your responsibility. You might have been the one to do the initial contacting but that doesn't make it your financial burden, at least not how I see it. This issue is between your friend and the artist to resolve amongst themselves, and I think you should probably cancel your pending commission with the artist. Absolute lack of contact is not good.
ichigoneko33
Sep. 16th, 2010 06:01 pm (UTC)
I'm fine paying it to be honest. My friend doesn't work right now and only had cash cause we sold an old character of his. He only spent the money thinking the commission wasn't gonna work out like I thought.

What should I do if they have done some work on it so far? Pay for the work done as what is usually done?
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bailzzararco
Sep. 16th, 2010 06:07 pm (UTC)
My guess is that is was an oversight. It's just a bit of bad luck.
ichigoneko33
Sep. 16th, 2010 06:08 pm (UTC)
I have a feeling it could be that, like missed the comment, it's why I didn't want to do anything rash.
jakejynx
Sep. 16th, 2010 07:24 pm (UTC)
"I admit I should have tried to contact him a bit more then that though."

Hah. Yeah, no. It's not your responsibility to nag an artist to try to get a commission or some sort of verification that it's been accepted. You're under no obligation to pay him, and he should consider himself VERY lucky should you wind up doing so. Though if it's a picture for your friend, I think you should just put it on your friend to pay for it if they wind up wanting it.

It's not your place, of course, so don't take it to heart if he responds negatively to it, but you may want to try to explain to him what sort of situation he's getting himself into by not informing someone that their commission has been accepted, and ignoring comments that ask about them. He's setting himself up to make 'free' art for people by doing that, because many people wouldn't be willing to pay after an issue like that. I know if I probably wouldn't pay him for it--not that I don't value artists and their time, but if I've got x$ set aside for a commission and wind up spending it elsewhere because I'm getting ignored, I'm not going to pay extra money for something I got elsewhere (if that made sense).
ichigoneko33
Sep. 16th, 2010 07:29 pm (UTC)
Well, I meant more like maybe note as well, since I've missed comments before, so it was a possiblity that had happened. I'm perfectly fine paying for my friend, since I get gifts for him all the time and I was the one that suggested we get the commissions in the first place, plus my friend isn't working at the momment.

I told him my concerns and he was perfectly nice about it and said he didn't realize that not notifiying would cause trouble. I did pay for the piece too and I consider this resolved :3

Thank you for the advice though ^^
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