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*EDIT 8-18-2010 7:19 AM EST - Ms Fancy has emailed me my art (which is very good) and I feel all is resolved now**

Much as I hate to do a "bad artist" post, I am VERY frustrated with this artist. After waiting 7 months for a ref sheet commission and asking for a refund, she said the piece was finished so she would not give me a full refund (which I could understand) but she would like to email me the piece instead. Ok, fine. I should have stuck to my guns and said "no, money plz" but I am a bit too nice to people so I said that was fine. Still no art. I have no proof the art is/was finished. I got a sketch to approve in March and that has been the only thing I have seen indicating she was working on my art. She is now taking a "hiatus" from FA, so I have no idea if she saw my last note to her or not.

http://www.furaffinity.net/user/fancymisslady

I am sending an email to her paypal email as well to see if she can get my art to me, but this seemed to warrant an artist_beware post.

**Side note** She did complete a badge I asked for after the ref sheet commission, so I was hoping ALL experiences with her would be positive.

Screencaps are linked at the bottom.

Story : On January 19, 2010 I asked this artist (at the time her FA username was 0ka - http://www.furaffinity.net/user/0ka/) to do a 3-pose ref sheet. Her price was $25.

I managed to forget to paypal her the money until Jan 25, so I consider that the "start date". We agreed on a mid-Feburary completion date, as I had no real rush on getting the ref sheet.

At the end of Feb, I asked if there was any update as I had not heard from her. She has the sketch for me to approve. Should have been finished, but I didn't *NEED* the art for any particular reason, so I let it slide. I cannot find the sketch anywhere now so I don't even have THAT now :\ But it was ok except for the tail, so I let her know.

Beginning of April - I asked for status. She said she was going to mail me the sketch. I still have yet to receive that.

May 13th, she noted me apologizing for the delays but she left my art at her fiancee's house. I asked again in June and it was NOT at her fiancee's house, but a friend of his somewhere far away.

August 12th. She has it! She will have it uploaded the next day!

August 16th - still nothing uploaded. Only a new journal saying she is taking a hiatus, sorry if people are waiting for stuff. Um...what??

SS of FA journal : http://cerari.com/Fancy_FAJournal.jpg

So I noted her saying the delays had reached the unacceptable point and I would like a refund.
She said she'd really like to get me my art, but wouldn't be able to refund the whole thing since it was finished.

I agreed to have her email me the art. Surprise surprise, still nothing.

Screencaps of the notes between us (super big image)

http://cerari.com/fancy_ref_notes.gif

So....I have no art still. No proof that it is done except "she said so". She is AWOL. At this point, I'm almost at the point of writing her off all together and not caring if I get money or art from her...but I want her to complete SOMETHING for me - either refund my money (ALL of it since there is no proof it is done) or give me the art I paid for 7 months ago.

If anyone is thinking about commissioning her, please do not. I have since heard this is an ongoing issue of people not getting work she has been paid for. I wish the situation was different, but it is what it is.
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bladespark
Aug. 18th, 2010 03:12 am (UTC)
Aww man. I'm sorry to hear you're getting jerked around like that.
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armaina
Aug. 18th, 2010 03:29 am (UTC)
it.. it shouldn't D:
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teahound
Aug. 18th, 2010 03:38 am (UTC)
No, that's just how .gifs look when they're big. Not a good quality to save images in.
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cerari
Aug. 18th, 2010 11:21 am (UTC)
I have the same image uploaded as a .jpg as well (just change the end to .jpg instead of .gif) - I just knew it would take awhile to load as it was a big image, and was using a .gif to try and keep people from having to wait...but it shouldn't be flickering :\
wyngaed
Aug. 18th, 2010 03:29 am (UTC)
What a shame! I'm sorry to hear that... I really like Fancy's work, and was planning on commissioning her in the future. Now I'm not so sure... :(
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teahound
Aug. 18th, 2010 03:36 am (UTC)
I'll be perfectly honest - she is very slow. The art is always excellent quality, but I'm afraid I have to agree on the slow part. However! She has kept me up to date on mine every time I ask about it. I commissioned her for a badge, and it's done, so now I just have to wait for it to be mailed.

So sadly if you're not prepared for a wait I'd have to agree not to commission her. =( (I will say my badge came out wonderfully though.)
bladespark
Aug. 18th, 2010 03:38 am (UTC)
I've got to wonder in what kind of situation she could have the art already done, and yet be unable to e-mail it though? That sounds a lot less like just being slow and a lot more like lying, to me.
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shukivengeance
Aug. 18th, 2010 04:12 am (UTC)
There was a post made on here about her around a month ago. As far as I know it got resolved so hopefully your situation can be too.
zareonianwolf
Aug. 18th, 2010 04:37 am (UTC)
I'm still waiting on a couple of pieces for an art trade from her. I did my two halves 4-5 months ago, according to the dates on the FA submissions, and while I understand life happens, I'm getting a bit annoyed myself. She's lovely to talk to, and I never bother people if they owe me art, which might be part of the issue.

Here's hoping you get your reference sheet or money soon.
mrst4nkr
Aug. 18th, 2010 06:51 am (UTC)
Noting you.
mrst4nkr
Aug. 18th, 2010 07:55 am (UTC)
This post is legitimate and all, but I can't help but feel a little unnerved.

I said I'd email it if you gave me your email.

I didn't email it "fast enough" for you, I guess? ( I didn't exactly state that I was going to email it that second. )


That ref sheet is sitting in your inbox, and I didn't even see this entry until I was in the process of letting gmail download the image to mail it over.



As frustrated as you are with me, I didn't get a warning of this post or anything. If you wanted the money, you should have taken it when I offered it to you. I'm not sure if a couple of hours made you rethink your whole situation with me, or what. I was really surprised by your sudden 180 in attitude regarding this situation, to be honest.
cerari
Aug. 18th, 2010 11:18 am (UTC)
Hello :) First, thank you for the responses and for emailing my ref sheet - it does look great (as all your art does).

I would like to explain how things looked to me with this situation (DISCLAIMIER! These are my observations and what I was assuming and may or may not be what was really going on!!)

When you finally advised that you had gotten your portfolio back and would be getting things uploaded, that was cool...but then you uploaded one batch that was a mix of commissioned work and personal work (according to your journal about it at least). My initial thought was "if I had a bunch of art people paid me for, I will set those aside so I can get them uploaded first"

But you did one batch and then it was 'I'm going away for awhile, if you are waiting for something from me, sorry". That was astounding to me to be perfectly honest. You knew I was waiting for my piece, and I am sure other people were noting you as well looking for their work.

Not that I am trying to say I know your personal life/situation, but if I were in your position, I would have at the very least either noted people or journaled that you would get 2-3 pieces uploaded a day, so everyone should have their work by "X date". That way, you are not at the computer for hours uploading art, but your commissioners don't feel like they are being left in the dark and that they might never get the art they paid you for.

So, I noted you asking for the refund. Instead of seeing my note and looking for my art, scanning it and uploading it to scraps or wherever to show me it was ready, you instead sent a semi-long note about how it was done and you think I'll like it, etc. It was one of those "well, ok, hopefully this will all be taken care of now" situations.

I will say I did not wait very long for you to email, but at the same time, I had been told by you before it would be either sent to me or uploaded to FA and wasn't - I was gunshy and think I had a right to be.

You do great work, there is no question about that. But I think the way you handled your commissions (not just mine) over the last month or so is a pretty poor way to deal with people who paid you for art.

Thank you for the quick response and for the ref sheet - I hope you get everything else (home and art life) settled down soon as well :) No hard feelings from my end, just a very frustrating end situation that is now resolved.
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torikonero
Aug. 18th, 2010 05:40 pm (UTC)
I'm glad she's stopping commissions, because it seems like her slowness is an issue for a lot of people. While I do not have any large issues with her, I seemed to have commissioned her at a time in which every possible life situation has brought her into a funk in which she does not "have the energy" to scan art she says is done. The sheer volume of personal art that goes up between single sketch commissions does bother me somewhat, but I suppose that's what happens when you have a large pile of art and decide to scan it willy-nilly, instead of sorting it by what is owed to people and what is personal art. I'm not chomping at the bit to have my sketch, but if she hadn't decided herself to stop commissions I definitely would have suggested it until she is at a better point in her life, in which she can be more organized and thoughtful.
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