?

Log in

No account? Create an account

Previous Entry | Next Entry

Redistribution of Original Commission

Recently, I've had an issue with Razz (razzek on FA and DA)regarding a commissioned piece back in January. This was a piece for a fundraiser of a mutual friend of both the artist and me. She completes the piece and via notes tells me it's finished; it's subsequently uploaded to FA. I'm quite satisfied with the piece and the work she put into it. As luck would have it, both of our lives become crazy and hectic.

Fast-forward to July 12, When Razz notifies users that old commissions would be going into scrap-bags for re-sale. I contacted Razz to have her hold my commission. Unfortunately, I didn't follow up until her "last call" journal on July 23. I contacted her again and pointed her out to the piece she did for me. Much to my horror, she apologized and notified me that the piece had already been sold. She also notified me that she had made "several journals" about needing shipping information and she assumed that I did not want the original. This was only partially true: She did make one additional journal on January 19, requesting my shipping information. I missed this particular journal and this led on to my piece being sold to "a good home" — yet she cannot remember who obtained this particular piece.

My grievances are these:

1. If you do a piece using real media, unless otherwise stated, it is presumed that the buyer wants this piece. I'm not thrilled about having a product that I paid for being re-purchased by someone else. Yes, the money did indeed go to the target of the fundraiser. However, I feel like that I've been "double dipped" in that the artist sold the original piece. It's my feeling that under no circumstances should a paid-for and approved original be re-sold by the artist unless there's consent to do so otherwise.

2. I try to be understanding of situations. Sometimes things can't be shipped right away. Given that this artist re-located cross-country with her husband, I figured that my commission was the least of her worries and didn't press the matter — I'm no stranger to playing the waiting game. Plus, I had recently re-located across state and since then things haven't been that especially good for me either.

3. If the artist was indeed ready for me to provide shipping information, then she should have contacted me via a note or shout — something that's directly addressed to me. If she had done that and I still left no information, then she'd have a much stronger case of me simply defaulting on the original piece. Sometimes we miss journals. As much as she shifts the blame onto me for not notifying her, I shift the exact same blame onto her for not noting me.

4. This is more of an auxiliary sort of complaint, but do not attribute "disability" as means of absolving yourself of professional responsibility. So that we're all clear, the artist is legitimately disabled and I'm not mocking/insulting her for it.

I earnestly hope that there can be some resolution in this matter.

First of all, here's the piece in question:

http://www.furaffinity.net/view/3240540/ (SFW)

Next, the three journals notifying buyers about art:

http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/1155011/ (January 19, the one I missed)
http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/1547998/ (July 12, this is the first note I sent)
http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/1578718/ (July 23, most recent)

Finally, the exchange of notes between Razz and me. Excuse the large dimensions, but I wanted legibility. On the last note, there are gaps because I've erased the identities of third-parties that aren't involved in the transaction itself.

http://s793.photobucket.com/albums/yy219/the10za/?action=view¤t=razz.png


EDIT: The artist and I have worked out a suitable agreement. We both admit fault for our communication over this transaction and we shall take this experience to be a very teachable moment on how artists and buyers should be on the same page from the very start of a transaction.

Community Tags:

Artist's beware has moved!
Do NOT repost your old bewares. They are being archived.
https://artistsbeware.info/

Comments

( 266 comments — Leave a comment )
Page 1 of 2
<<[1] [2] >>
(Deleted comment)
(Deleted comment)
(Deleted comment)
(no subject) - fatkraken - Jul. 28th, 2010 10:52 pm (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - greenreaper - Jul. 28th, 2010 10:56 pm (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - sekhmet - Jul. 28th, 2010 10:57 pm (UTC) - Expand
(Deleted comment)
(no subject) - sekhmet - Jul. 28th, 2010 11:08 pm (UTC) - Expand
(Deleted comment)
(no subject) - spiffystuff - Jul. 29th, 2010 12:28 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - lurkerwisp - Jul. 29th, 2010 12:34 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - kayfox - Jul. 29th, 2010 02:56 pm (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - myenia - Jul. 29th, 2010 12:37 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - celarania - Jul. 28th, 2010 11:16 pm (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - xianjaguar - Jul. 29th, 2010 02:01 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - sekhmet - Jul. 29th, 2010 03:17 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - xianjaguar - Jul. 29th, 2010 06:25 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - spiffystuff - Jul. 29th, 2010 12:26 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - lurkerwisp - Jul. 29th, 2010 12:32 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - spiffystuff - Jul. 29th, 2010 12:36 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - lurkerwisp - Jul. 29th, 2010 12:50 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - spiffystuff - Jul. 29th, 2010 01:05 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - kerstin_orion - Jul. 29th, 2010 01:13 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - fyphfoko - Jul. 29th, 2010 08:38 pm (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - purpule - Jul. 29th, 2010 12:33 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - lilenth - Jul. 29th, 2010 08:14 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - myenia - Jul. 29th, 2010 12:42 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - spiffystuff - Jul. 29th, 2010 01:56 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - dragon695 - Aug. 7th, 2010 12:57 pm (UTC) - Expand
(Deleted comment)
tenzanosumi
Jul. 28th, 2010 11:07 pm (UTC)
I contacted her on via the FA Note system. In that attached image, there's a total of 8 notes: her replies to my original. I definitively do not know that it was sold prior to July 12, though context from subsequent notes indicates this is the case.
(Deleted comment)
(no subject) - tenzanosumi - Jul. 28th, 2010 11:31 pm (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - myenia - Jul. 29th, 2010 12:48 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - onesteptwo - Jul. 29th, 2010 01:25 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - louveg - Jul. 29th, 2010 03:29 pm (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - kriscynical - Jul. 29th, 2010 02:55 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - teahound - Jul. 29th, 2010 06:22 am (UTC) - Expand
fatkraken
Jul. 28th, 2010 10:51 pm (UTC)
I think it's a communication problem. You assumed you had bought the piece (s in the bit of paper with marker ink on it), she assumed you had not. I do think that if she would have been willing to ship it to you at cost she was wrong not to give you this option, but if you had not negotiated ownership of the piece beforehand and were happy with just the digital image then she can pretty much do as she pleases with the original
sekhmet
Jul. 28th, 2010 10:54 pm (UTC)
Commenting on the Journal Portion of this Situation
One thing I will say is that as an artist I never expect people to read every single journal I post, or always check for updates. It's pretty easy to miss journals.
I think she should have at least contacted all the people in question by e-mail to make really sure.

purpule
Jul. 28th, 2010 10:57 pm (UTC)
Legalities aside, I think there's a bit of an ethics issue with selling on artwork made for other people/their characters.

I don't know how I'd feel about it so much anymore, but if I'd paid for a piece, I'd want the original. However, if I didn't pay to have it sent to me, I suppose it is up to the artist to do as they wish with it, it's just... it does feel very iffy to sell on artwork of someone elses characters and such, but I'm not as adamant that it's absolutely wrong as I used to be.
kriscynical
Jul. 29th, 2010 03:00 am (UTC)
When a company hires an illustrator to do, say, an editorial illustration for an article within their company, they pay to have exclusive usage rights for a year or so at additional cost of having the image produced. After the usage rights the company purchased expire, the illustrator is absolutely free to re-sell the artwork to any other company/publication which might want to use it. All illustrators do this if the copyright has not been permanently purchased at the time the piece is created; it's another way we make money.

The only way a company can get exclusive rights to an image for all time is to do a buyout, which is the purchase of the complete rights of that image. It's standard practice and by no means seen as an ethics violation.
x_thor
Jul. 28th, 2010 11:00 pm (UTC)
Dude, one of my biggest peeves is when an artist just expects customers to read every journal they post. If it's something important like shipping information needed, she should have just noted/emailed you.

Lazy...

frazzled_niya
Jul. 29th, 2010 02:51 am (UTC)
this
(Deleted comment)
(no subject) - grygon - Jul. 29th, 2010 06:41 am (UTC) - Expand
chronidu
Jul. 28th, 2010 11:03 pm (UTC)
Actually, technically, the piece belongs to the artist unless you explicitly paid and contracted to receive and own the original. They have all the right to sell it.

But I do agree in that I always find it shady to not offer it to the commissioner right off the bat in the first place.
celestinaketzia
Jul. 28th, 2010 11:09 pm (UTC)
While it irks me that someone could sell commissioned work that I paid for, it still is within the artist's rights. The only thing here that is truly annoying is that she expects everyone to read her journals. I come home to 30+ journals a day from work. There's no way I am going to read them all, and sometimes I miss journals from people I actually do want to keep track of.
kayfox
Jul. 29th, 2010 03:12 pm (UTC)
30? I think I average about 170 each day.

No, I dont read all of them, I dont even read 10% of them.
dripbat
Jul. 28th, 2010 11:11 pm (UTC)
That kinda sucks, but the artist had the right to do so.

What would have been better for them to do would have been to note, email, or shout to you that they wanted to offer it to you for purchase (or if shipping the original was included) first before offering it to someone else. That was a bit unfair in my eyes. But again, its their right to do so either way. D:
shukivengeance
Jul. 28th, 2010 11:24 pm (UTC)
Regardless of copyright laws or whatever it's still pretty shitty to re-sell art that you were paid to create in the first place. I know it sounds wonderful to get money twice for the same drawing but there really is no need to shaft your customers simply because you can.
grygon
Jul. 28th, 2010 11:42 pm (UTC)
How is it shitty? It IS the artist's image, to do with as she likes unless there was a written contract involved stating otherwise.
(no subject) - spiffystuff - Jul. 29th, 2010 12:33 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - grygon - Jul. 29th, 2010 12:38 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - purpule - Jul. 29th, 2010 12:40 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - grygon - Jul. 29th, 2010 12:53 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - purpule - Jul. 29th, 2010 01:01 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - stormrunner1981 - Jul. 30th, 2010 04:38 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - kriscynical - Jul. 29th, 2010 03:14 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - grygon - Jul. 29th, 2010 04:19 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - alcyione - Jul. 29th, 2010 06:47 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - grygon - Jul. 29th, 2010 06:49 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - spiffystuff - Jul. 29th, 2010 12:43 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - tenzanosumi - Jul. 29th, 2010 01:07 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - spiffystuff - Jul. 29th, 2010 01:18 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - pariahsdream - Jul. 29th, 2010 01:25 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - grygon - Jul. 29th, 2010 01:07 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - spiffystuff - Jul. 29th, 2010 01:16 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - shukivengeance - Jul. 29th, 2010 02:12 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - spiffystuff - Jul. 29th, 2010 02:18 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - celarania - Jul. 29th, 2010 02:40 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - frazzled_niya - Jul. 29th, 2010 02:56 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - celarania - Jul. 29th, 2010 03:04 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - frazzled_niya - Jul. 29th, 2010 03:09 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - celarania - Jul. 29th, 2010 03:16 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - frazzled_niya - Jul. 29th, 2010 03:36 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - celarania - Jul. 29th, 2010 03:47 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - frazzled_niya - Jul. 29th, 2010 07:41 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - stormrunner1981 - Jul. 30th, 2010 04:41 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - spiffystuff - Jul. 30th, 2010 05:07 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - stormrunner1981 - Jul. 30th, 2010 04:41 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - purpule - Jul. 29th, 2010 01:04 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - grygon - Jul. 29th, 2010 01:09 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - tenzanosumi - Jul. 29th, 2010 01:13 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - frazzled_niya - Jul. 29th, 2010 02:57 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - pariahsdream - Jul. 29th, 2010 01:15 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - spiffystuff - Jul. 29th, 2010 01:52 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - pariahsdream - Jul. 29th, 2010 01:56 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - greenreaper - Jul. 29th, 2010 07:19 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - teahound - Jul. 29th, 2010 05:56 pm (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - dragon695 - Aug. 7th, 2010 12:42 pm (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - lurkerwisp - Jul. 29th, 2010 12:44 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - spiffystuff - Jul. 29th, 2010 01:01 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - kerstin_orion - Jul. 29th, 2010 01:54 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - lurkerwisp - Jul. 29th, 2010 03:13 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - shukivengeance - Jul. 29th, 2010 02:14 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - cesarin - Jul. 29th, 2010 01:05 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - kriscynical - Jul. 29th, 2010 03:13 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - chronidu - Jul. 29th, 2010 03:29 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - kriscynical - Jul. 29th, 2010 03:42 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - chronidu - Jul. 29th, 2010 03:56 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - greenreaper - Jul. 29th, 2010 08:48 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - teahound - Jul. 29th, 2010 06:12 pm (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - greenreaper - Jul. 29th, 2010 06:23 pm (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - teahound - Jul. 29th, 2010 06:28 pm (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - chronidu - Jul. 29th, 2010 06:34 pm (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - greenreaper - Jul. 29th, 2010 06:49 pm (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - chronidu - Jul. 29th, 2010 06:32 pm (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - chronidu - Jul. 29th, 2010 06:35 pm (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - greenreaper - Jul. 29th, 2010 06:56 pm (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - greenreaper - Jul. 29th, 2010 07:09 pm (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - celarania - Jul. 29th, 2010 07:31 pm (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - greenreaper - Jul. 29th, 2010 10:07 pm (UTC) - Expand
grygon
Jul. 28th, 2010 11:41 pm (UTC)
I guess next time buy the original and pay for it to be shipped right off the bat? I dunno, to me this screams irresponsible of YOU, not the artist. Doesn't sound like you made it clear during the commission process that you even wanted the original, you just assumed that it was to be presumed. NEVER assume or presume things. Especially after so much time has passed. Not all artists keep very good records so maybe she lost your contact info, cause sounds like she made every attempt she could to contact people with her journals.
tenzanosumi
Jul. 28th, 2010 11:54 pm (UTC)
No need for the anger caps.

The attempts to contact were just as spread out as my own inquiries: One in January, two in July. When I see this journal pop up a couple of weeks back asking people to claim their commissions, I immediately took notice of that. As far as wanting the original, I never had an instance until now where someone I've commissioned a real media piece that didn't ask for shipping information. Also, bear in mind that I didn't want to seem petulant by asking "Hey, could you ship my commission while you're re-locating across country?" Part of the reason I'm displeased is she did a fair deal of presumption herself — assuming that everyone read every single journal of hers.
(no subject) - grygon - Jul. 29th, 2010 12:09 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - tenzanosumi - Jul. 29th, 2010 12:26 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - xianjaguar - Jul. 29th, 2010 02:04 am (UTC) - Expand
(Deleted comment)
(no subject) - grygon - Jul. 29th, 2010 05:44 am (UTC) - Expand
(Deleted comment)
(no subject) - grygon - Jul. 29th, 2010 06:36 am (UTC) - Expand
silverfalln
Jul. 28th, 2010 11:45 pm (UTC)
I'm another person that get's annoyed at artists who expect commissioners to read journals. Half the time, I don't read the journals on my watch list. I'm more apt to read them on dA when I can see part of the journal in preview, but FA? Nah. I just skip most of them. I really, really try to keep in contact when I have commissioners, and prefer to do so with email since notes get lost, or the site goes down... so on and so forth. I tend to open everything I want to look at at once, and sometimes... the wrong tab gets closed and I have no clue what I meant to look at. (I have VERY spotty memory.)

That said... They have a right to do whatever they want with an image they draw, unless the commissioner buys the rights. Ethically, I'd contact a commissioner before I did anything with it (prints, selling an original, etc), but I, and no other artist, is required to.

So.. yeah, artist did what they had rights to do, but should have worked a little harder at keeping in touch with a prospective buyer.
the_lest
Jul. 29th, 2010 03:28 am (UTC)
off topic, but how do you get DA journals to show a preview? I remember having that option a long time ago but I thought they got rid of it.

Sorry for random question.
(no subject) - silverfalln - Jul. 29th, 2010 04:40 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - demonofdreams - Jul. 29th, 2010 06:12 pm (UTC) - Expand
celarania
Jul. 28th, 2010 11:49 pm (UTC)
Hmm... I can certainly understand why you're upset about the original getting sold off, but at the same time, it looks like the TOS mentions that the original isn't going to be held for you indefinitely. It seems like you didn't contact the artist about the original after it was done. I don't like the use of journals as a way to contact commissioners, but at the same time if it was in the TOS, that's what you agreed too. If she sold them after she warned you she would in her TOS, then that's fair game in my opinion. (Obviously if it wasn't in the TOS or if you asked about shipping previously, then that's a different story.)

Maybe you can ask her for a high quality print, or a high def file for a nice print? It might not be the original, but it might be a decent substitute.
tenzanosumi
Jul. 29th, 2010 12:09 am (UTC)
Here's the thing that bothers me about that little clause in her TOS. Namely that she's trying to apply it retroactively. In her own words she says "...my 'no hold' policy is the first thing mentioned on my price list on my main page (which has had that statement on it for over a month)." That meaning, at the time of purchase, it wasn't there — if it was, then she would have told me that it was there when I purchased it way back in January.
(no subject) - celarania - Jul. 29th, 2010 12:26 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - the_lest - Jul. 29th, 2010 03:37 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - grygon - Jul. 29th, 2010 12:15 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - celarania - Jul. 29th, 2010 12:21 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - grygon - Jul. 29th, 2010 12:26 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - grygon - Jul. 29th, 2010 12:35 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - pigeons - Jul. 29th, 2010 12:48 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - grygon - Jul. 29th, 2010 12:56 am (UTC) - Expand
pariahsdream
Jul. 29th, 2010 12:34 am (UTC)
It sounds like to me you're both at fault, though I'm not holding the artist as much because it was within her rights to sell the original image. I think you should take this as a lesson learned and make sure you spell things out CLEARLY what you expect from the artist and not PRESUME anything about what they will and will not do. Communication is a two way street and while it might seem annoying to spell everything out, it saves trouble and heartache in the long run.

And no, the caps are not in anger, they're for emphasis.
grygon
Jul. 29th, 2010 01:00 am (UTC)
Well said.

BUT spelling everything out should not seem annoying. It should seem like clear communication. You don't know the artist and she doesn't know you AND it's a business transaction not an interview for a new friendship, lol.

And thanks for the nod to the caps. I love it when I get the "improper netiquette" speech from people who clearly have netiquette issues of their own.
(no subject) - pariahsdream - Jul. 29th, 2010 01:04 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - grygon - Jul. 29th, 2010 01:20 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - filthy_animal - Jul. 29th, 2010 04:06 am (UTC) - Expand
(Deleted comment)
cesarin
Jul. 29th, 2010 01:13 am (UTC)
I fully agree with you, this is not a thing about "copyright" but about the paid work that she was asked to do, in wich was the real media artwork piece.
if she resold it, she's selling something that its not from her anymore.
(no subject) - celarania - Jul. 29th, 2010 01:18 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - grygon - Jul. 29th, 2010 01:23 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - cesarin - Jul. 29th, 2010 01:36 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - grygon - Jul. 29th, 2010 04:32 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - cesarin - Jul. 29th, 2010 04:50 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - grygon - Jul. 29th, 2010 05:03 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - cesarin - Jul. 29th, 2010 05:10 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - grygon - Jul. 29th, 2010 05:12 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - cesarin - Jul. 29th, 2010 05:21 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - silverfalln - Jul. 29th, 2010 05:25 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - grygon - Jul. 29th, 2010 05:27 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - silverfalln - Jul. 29th, 2010 09:28 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - grygon - Jul. 29th, 2010 06:19 pm (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - cesarin - Jul. 29th, 2010 06:00 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - silverfalln - Jul. 29th, 2010 09:22 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - kayla_la - Jul. 29th, 2010 05:19 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - cesarin - Jul. 29th, 2010 05:29 am (UTC) - Expand
(Deleted comment)
(no subject) - leahtaur - Jul. 29th, 2010 03:10 am (UTC) - Expand
(Deleted comment)
(no subject) - leahtaur - Jul. 29th, 2010 03:46 am (UTC) - Expand
(Deleted comment)
(no subject) - leahtaur - Jul. 29th, 2010 03:58 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - greenreaper - Jul. 29th, 2010 07:57 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - kayla_la - Jul. 29th, 2010 04:23 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - grygon - Jul. 29th, 2010 04:35 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - cesarin - Jul. 29th, 2010 04:55 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - grygon - Jul. 29th, 2010 05:10 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - cesarin - Jul. 29th, 2010 05:23 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - pariahsdream - Jul. 29th, 2010 05:34 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - cesarin - Jul. 29th, 2010 05:51 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - pariahsdream - Jul. 29th, 2010 05:59 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - cesarin - Jul. 29th, 2010 06:04 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - pariahsdream - Jul. 29th, 2010 06:25 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - grygon - Jul. 29th, 2010 04:33 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - grygon - Jul. 29th, 2010 03:43 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - leahtaur - Jul. 29th, 2010 03:44 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - grygon - Jul. 29th, 2010 04:19 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - leahtaur - Jul. 29th, 2010 04:23 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - grygon - Jul. 29th, 2010 04:30 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - pariahsdream - Jul. 29th, 2010 04:30 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - teahound - Jul. 29th, 2010 06:52 pm (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - pariahsdream - Jul. 30th, 2010 01:25 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - spartanwerewolf - Aug. 2nd, 2010 10:46 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - pariahsdream - Aug. 2nd, 2010 11:29 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - spartanwerewolf - Aug. 2nd, 2010 11:43 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - kayla_la - Jul. 29th, 2010 04:37 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - grygon - Jul. 29th, 2010 04:38 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - greenreaper - Jul. 29th, 2010 08:07 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - grygon - Jul. 29th, 2010 06:12 pm (UTC) - Expand
(Deleted comment)
(no subject) - celarania - Jul. 29th, 2010 03:01 am (UTC) - Expand
(Deleted comment)
(no subject) - leahtaur - Jul. 29th, 2010 03:13 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - celarania - Jul. 29th, 2010 03:20 am (UTC) - Expand
(Deleted comment)
(no subject) - celarania - Jul. 29th, 2010 03:58 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - stormslegacy - Jul. 29th, 2010 04:15 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - kayla_la - Jul. 29th, 2010 04:07 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - willowistari - Jul. 29th, 2010 01:40 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - cesarin - Jul. 29th, 2010 02:53 am (UTC) - Expand
(Deleted comment)
(no subject) - cesarin - Jul. 29th, 2010 03:04 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - willowistari - Jul. 29th, 2010 03:31 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - celarania - Jul. 29th, 2010 03:35 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - tenzanosumi - Jul. 29th, 2010 03:37 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - celarania - Jul. 29th, 2010 03:44 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - cesarin - Jul. 29th, 2010 05:01 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - celarania - Jul. 29th, 2010 05:09 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - cesarin - Jul. 29th, 2010 06:10 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - celarania - Jul. 29th, 2010 06:15 am (UTC) - Expand
(Deleted comment)
(no subject) - celarania - Jul. 29th, 2010 03:47 am (UTC) - Expand
(Deleted comment)
(no subject) - kriscynical - Jul. 29th, 2010 05:17 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - greenreaper - Jul. 29th, 2010 07:36 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - frazzled_niya - Jul. 29th, 2010 03:03 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - teahound - Jul. 29th, 2010 06:31 pm (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - stormrunner1981 - Jul. 30th, 2010 05:14 am (UTC) - Expand
Page 1 of 2
<<[1] [2] >>
( 266 comments — Leave a comment )

Profile

A_B icon
artists_beware
Commissioner & Artist, Warning & Kudos Community
Artists Beware

Community Tags

Powered by LiveJournal.com