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Starfinder/-Star-/Astray/Kannos (Again)

Well, it's a shame I didn't know about this place, or this artists reputation prior. Counting the recent entry by Murdercrow on the 8th in this very community the presently outstanding, prepaid value of artwork that I'm aware of that Star owes people is $550 USD split between 3 individuals (This would include Mudercrow's $30 con badge and the commissions owed to myself and another party).

I'm presently asking anyone who is owed art by Star that they have actually paid for contact me on FurAffinity here: http://www.furaffinity.net/user/kesslan/

Please provide a simple note of the following:
-The amount you paid up front
-The date the payment was made and when the artwork was to be due by
-If you are willing to allow me to post this information and what specifics you will allow to be publicly posted.
-If you have records of notes, IMs, PMs or any other communication with the artist in question.

If need be I fully intend to look at the options available in regards to legal action, but I would much prefer negotiating either a refund to all those owed, or failing that having Star own up to all her outstanding, prepaid commissions.

Doubly so considering this artist is constantly accepting new commissions, and doing said new commissions before doing her outstanding ones. Everyone goes through hard times, hell I spent a year and a half on the street myself. That's not an excuse to treat people the way this artist has, and I for one don't intend to idly sit by.

EDIT:
Update: I've since been contacted on FA by at least one other individual bringing the total of outstanding work/prints etc to $708 USD that goes back as far as 2006. I must note however that my own issues do not date back anywhere near as far.

1 Issue resolved: Oustanding total is now 678

Edit Nov 26/2010:
So all the issues that I'm aware of were resolved save mine so far. Friend of mine who commissioned her got a drawing, though not the one he was supposed to have. He decided however to just cut his losses and accept what he got, and by all means that's his choice.

The only thing I've seen so far out of her in regards to mine was an extremely crude sketch that Arinmal had pointed me towards. The layout would actually be pretty good if she finished it in the degree of quality she puts into even half her work. All said and done, I honestly wish I'd given the money to a more worthy artist such as Strype who was very good to work with (And cost me less to boot)
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sekhmet
Jun. 16th, 2010 09:02 pm (UTC)
"Everyone goes through hard times, hell I spent a year and a half on the street myself. That's not an excuse to treat people the way this artist has, and I for one don't intend to idly sit by." the worst part is theres almost always something going on with her =/
I hope something can be done for you guys. This is seriously not cool that shes continuing to do this :(
ashleyvsdestiny
Jun. 16th, 2010 09:05 pm (UTC)
Geez Kesslan, it's like you get screwed trying to get almost every furry thing you buy online. I feel kinda sad for you. Did you ever actually work out that fursuit thing, BTW?
kesslan
Jun. 17th, 2010 02:01 am (UTC)
I did yes.

Supposedly.

The builder and I have come to a mutually agreeable solution. I'll find out at Anthrocon for sure though.
spiffystuff
Jun. 16th, 2010 09:16 pm (UTC)
I am curious, if you'd be willing to answer
When did you commission her? Was it after she supposedly started taking payment /after/ finishing a commission, or has she abandoned that model?

Also, Kannos? This a new pseudonym of Starfinder's?

Edited at 2010-06-16 09:17 pm (UTC)
kayla_la
Jun. 16th, 2010 09:20 pm (UTC)
Kannos appears to be her Inkbunny moniker.
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lilenth
Jun. 16th, 2010 09:24 pm (UTC)

Good luck with it, hopefully if more people are prepared to take action over artists like star who have woefully bad business practises, it might become less common for cases like star to actually happen.
celestinaketzia
Jun. 16th, 2010 09:26 pm (UTC)
It was just a matter of time before someone got annoyed enough with Star to get their money back.

I am interested to see how many people come out of the wood work.
kesslan
Jun. 17th, 2010 02:10 am (UTC)
Oh, I'm not annoyed exactly. Not yet.

I am however preparing for the worst.
ellonwye
Jun. 16th, 2010 09:34 pm (UTC)
She's been 'in a financial hole' the entire time I've known of her, which is going on 5 years at least. Yet she can buy wolfdog puppies and expensive photography equipment. She's a liar, sorry.
westly_roanoke
Jun. 16th, 2010 10:29 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I've known of her longer, and she's constantly 'in the financial hole'

her house is always up for foreclosure, her dad steals all her money...etc, etc...

Yet she gets shitloads of expensive photography equipment, cars, wolfdogs, computers, printing shit, t-shirt presses, tablets...etc, etc...
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coyote_feathers
Jun. 16th, 2010 09:45 pm (UTC)
I think this is a really good idea. Good luck, I hope you (and everyone else) gets their money back.

Although I can't help but wonder how long it'll be before she just reinvents herself again with a new murrsona and the cycle starts all over again. It's upsetting.
werewolfofwater
Jun. 16th, 2010 10:21 pm (UTC)
Well, so much for her changing her ways. I guess she only fed this com that BS because she got caught. Not a huge surprise though.
kitefeathers
Jun. 16th, 2010 10:46 pm (UTC)
The sad thing is that no matter what is done to get the warnings about Starfinder, they're will always be some new/nieve folks who jump on the chance to commission her, thats what she feeds on.

Seux was banned from FA, and she's not even half as bad as Star, I sorta wish Star would be banned, it would really help cut the amount of peoples money she can run away with. DA is another matter though. v__v

And to the people that defend Star, why are you defending her? Is it /really/ that hard just to finish the commissions she's taken money for?
sekhmet
Jun. 16th, 2010 11:00 pm (UTC)
Eh honestly dude, at this point id have to agree. Especially with the name changes on FA, not everyone knows her rep and falls in a trap when commissioning her. Its not fair :(
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jurann
Jun. 17th, 2010 12:46 am (UTC)
It's tempting to keep quiet about this and be all morally superior or whatever, but I feel you and the community have a right to know. StarFinder's account on FurBuy has been suspended indefinitely pending her getting things ironed-out with all of the people on FurBuy she's gotten negative feedback from. Your accounting of things plus your negative feedback on FurBuy were the last straw. So, if you are having trouble with her from something on FurBuy please leave negative feedback and we'll use that as her tally on that site at the very least - she will not be able to do business on FurBuy again until she's resolved matters with her current set of bidders. I really hope she comes around and does so too, it's a shame such talent is so irresponsible.
kesslan
Jun. 17th, 2010 02:19 am (UTC)
I agree.

I'm willing to be reasonable and work something out. I'm even willing to wait. Indeed, considering what I've been noted so far, and that people have been owed things far longer (going back as far as 2006 so far) I'd like to see her own up to them, before my own issues get settled.

Hell as it was, if she at least kept up regular communication and commission list instead of deleting any and all past history the way she has done at least twice now, I wouldn't even have gone anywhere near this far yet.

That said, I had to talk to both Furbuy staff and Dragoneer before I got a response from her after the auction was over and she'd changed accounts yet again. She responded for a little while then went silent again. So this time I decided to start building up a case.

That said she has started responding to me again, so we shall see what happens.
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cuprohastes
Jun. 17th, 2010 02:01 am (UTC)
http://inkbunny.net/Kannos
Starfinder, selling prints of previous work on Inkbunny
furryskibum
Jun. 17th, 2010 02:19 am (UTC)
It should be noted I'm the one that dates back to 2006. While I've written off the prints I paid for (yes, PRINTS of completed work) some time ago, it's something I will probably never really get over unless she decides to resolve it. I've tried several times over the years with no success.

On another note, I have received some sketch work after she instituted the pay-upon-completion policy and was quite pleased.
kesslan
Jun. 17th, 2010 02:22 am (UTC)
Simple fact is your owed one way or the other.

As far as I'm concerned, she owes you to take some sort of reasonable step for compensation. The specifics of which would be entirely between the two of you as far as I'm concerned, but I'm going to give this all a few days and see who else pops up. After that, then I'll see if I can get her to start owning up to people.
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frazzled_niya
Jun. 17th, 2010 03:10 am (UTC)
:( hope it all gets worked out. If not you can always set up a public page keeping track of alias's etc to warn people away from starfinger/blahblahblahbalhb
growly
Jun. 17th, 2010 11:22 pm (UTC)
Starfinger is my favorite mispelling of her name I've seen so far.
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grygon
Jun. 17th, 2010 04:17 am (UTC)
damn. i feel for you guys. i lost $400 to blaquetygriss years ago, so i feel that pinch!
jurann
Jun. 17th, 2010 04:26 pm (UTC)
Wait, what?! Really? I've never known her to not complete something. o.O Can you elaborate?
murdercrow
Jun. 17th, 2010 07:58 am (UTC)
Figured I'd post an update here, since my post has been bumped off the front page by now:

http://www.furaffinity.net/view/4021627/

She's finished my badge and it looks terrific. As soon as it arrives in the mail I'll happily mark this as resolved, but I'm also really happy just to have something for my money. ^_^
spiffystuff
Jun. 17th, 2010 01:44 pm (UTC)
@-@ Wow, I'm glad you finally got your badge, and it is cool that she made it nicer! Too bad you had to hassle her so much to get the work done tho.
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