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Beware Yuchi yena

 This started back in July of 2008. Yuchi had an ad on the Furaffinity forums; Thread here
I had time and materials, so I though I would give it a shot. Her art was/is pretty nice.

The following are notes from deviantArt.




 

Though I thought I did reply, I could not find a reply till the following one from myself, 25 weeks ago. So my error there.















The second to last message pushed me over (2 weeks ago). She said she was updating with old art. Then this last message about her going to a con. I'm tired of being jerked around.

She has had three accounts within the time this has been going on. Has never messaged me about these moves, I found them out on my own.

I should have been on top of this more, but I too have a life. However, I don't have time to go to a con instead of getting artwork done. That frustrates me. For all the troubles she seems to be having she can't take an hour out of her day to doodle me something. -_-

As said I am frustrated and I thought I would let others know of this situation in case others have similar problems.

The piece in question that was traded; can be found Here.

EDIT: Yuchi has sent me a link to the Artwork which can be found Here. We have talked and I will let everyone know when it is received.

EDIT: Received the image 12/15/2010

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6_05
May. 24th, 2010 07:08 pm (UTC)
I dunno if I'm missing something, but from what I see she's asking you a bunch of times what you want for the trade and you never responded? Maybe I'm missing it, maybe you responded elsewhere, but yeah.
wolf_goat
May. 24th, 2010 07:10 pm (UTC)
It has a reply with her fursona's link in one of the screenies.
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joecifur
May. 24th, 2010 07:10 pm (UTC)
you're only posting half the conversation ...?
dragonfoxdemon
May. 24th, 2010 08:02 pm (UTC)
I have fixed the conversation.
circlemeats
May. 24th, 2010 07:12 pm (UTC)
agreed with the above posters, it's posted in a weird order and you never quite said what you wanted. I know she probably shouldn't need prodding to get on with her half, but you didn't really give her a deadline or an ultimatum or anything, so I think it's a little unfair of you to post it here. She said she was going to a con, therefore she'd have NO time to do it in the timeframe you gave her to avoid being posted here. Eehhh, idk, maybe she thought she was still in the clear. trades can be a little iffy sometimes :/
dragonfoxdemon
May. 24th, 2010 07:19 pm (UTC)
I agree the order is strange because I have posted all the replies I have received from her during this time, they include my have of the conversation, except for number six which does not show my prompt in which she responded too.
Again there is no deadline and perhaps that is bad on my part, but then again July will make this two years.
Yes trades are iffy, such I have learned.
machozi
May. 24th, 2010 07:15 pm (UTC)
I happen to be a close friend of hers, and I can attest to the fact that she is in no way trying to put you off. She's been going through a very tough time this past year, really hard emotional stuff, like a divorce, moving, losing her pets.

And really dude, it's JUST a trade. It's not like she stole your money or anything, which is really what this community is for.

And while she does owe stuff to people, she always gets it done. And her art is so damn adorable that it's worth it. So just be patient. :3
starchildebrite
May. 24th, 2010 07:20 pm (UTC)
"And really dude, it's JUST a trade. It's not like she stole your money or anything, which is really what this community is for."

Trades are just as important as commissions. The artist has already done his work and has not received his half of the trade. In essence, up to this point, Yuchi has received free art / has not paid for it with her half of the trade. All art takes time and effort, and an unanswered trade is time and money lost.

On the flip side, I can understand about personal issues. Some things are very long-lasting and take more than several months to solve. We all have our issues, and time is the only healer in some cases. Over time, however, I'm sure Yuchi could have sat down and at least done a bit of the work day by day.
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dinogrrl
May. 24th, 2010 07:20 pm (UTC)
...I cannot make heads or tails of the order the messages are supposed to be in. :{
vyncentesovar
May. 24th, 2010 07:21 pm (UTC)
Agreed with Machozi.

It's a trade bruh lol.
mrst4nkr
May. 24th, 2010 08:22 pm (UTC)
As I said to Machozi..

That attitude would be better directed toward requests.

"Dude, it's just a request. If you want to guarantee you'll get it, pay me for it. Otherwise, it's just a suggestion. "
See? That is a better fit!

I am sure the OP would have been happy to wait longer if contacted more frequently, or shown a little sketch or something.
weirdmisty
May. 24th, 2010 07:22 pm (UTC)
And her art is so damn adorable that it's worth it. So just be patient. :3

Cute art doesn't automatically excuse an artist's refusal or inability to provide owed art. How "damn adorable" the art is has absolutely nothing to do with whether the delay in delivering is acceptable or not.

EDIT: this was meant as a reply to machozi's comment.

Edited at 2010-05-24 07:23 pm (UTC)
mrst4nkr
May. 24th, 2010 08:30 pm (UTC)
Seconded.
dragonfoxdemon
May. 24th, 2010 07:27 pm (UTC)
I will be fixing the order of the posts, since it seems to be causing some problems here in a bit.
hippiehyena
May. 24th, 2010 07:45 pm (UTC)
I feel so bad for taking so long I'm so behind on alot and I admit it.

I need to pace myself, and am working with limited supplies. But I do appreciate your reminders.

I should have yours posted today.

I just got back from a convention and need to sort through everythign and find it again.
hippiehyena
May. 24th, 2010 09:08 pm (UTC)
As for the people saying thigns about trades not being as importaint

They are JUST as important as Commissions.

I was not intending to cut the OP off or do anything of the sort, I did get busy and alot of shit happened but I shouldn't have let myself let it drag this long. Yaknow?

I've got alot to learn about the buisness side of things and try so hard to please everyone that I accept any trade/commission that comes my way.

The trade has been finished I had just needed to post it and I'm sorry it took so long to get it to you Flare.

:)

I can attest to my mistake and want to honestly learn from this.

As to those white knighting, I appreciate it but it is not neccessary :3
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lichdog
May. 24th, 2010 07:47 pm (UTC)
I'm going to be up front about it.

Yuchi does take a long time to complete commissions and trades. This is true. However, with enough poking and reminders, she does get it done, as most people does. She's not a scammer in the least bit.

To be fair, she was going through some really bad times. Divorce, getting kicked out of her place and constant job searching while a very kind friend offered her couch space til she got back up on her feet. She's doing a lot better now though as far as I know.

Yuchi--if you're reading this, please follow through on this. You're a great person, finish what you owe girl.
leahtaur
May. 24th, 2010 07:55 pm (UTC)
I keep seeing comments saying how nice Yuchi is... and that's great, but having a nice personality does not equal business sense or professionalism.

And yeah, I would be more lenient too if I knew an artist was going through rough times. BUT, if she knew she had someone waiting on her to complete artwork, SHE should be the one to update YOU. You shouldn't have to prod at her for two years' time just to get an update. I notice only the threat of an entry about her on a_b was enough to get her moving.

Artists are people too, but unless she was homeless and computer-less for the entirety of those two years, and was literally had something preventing from sending you updates, this entry is more than warranted.
leahtaur
May. 24th, 2010 07:56 pm (UTC)
*and literally had something preventing her >_
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dragonfoxdemon
May. 24th, 2010 07:58 pm (UTC)
I have updated the images and taken them apart so they are in order so that it is easier to follow.
shukivengeance
May. 24th, 2010 07:59 pm (UTC)
2 years is unacceptable regardless of excuses. It's cute that her friends are trying to white-knight but come on. TWO YEARS. Not to mention the account-hopping without notice being given to somebody they owe stuff to.
leahtaur
May. 24th, 2010 08:01 pm (UTC)
Yes, the account hopping would tick me off for sure! Not only does he have to hound her by notes, he has to track her down to two different new accounts also?
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jakejynx
May. 24th, 2010 08:07 pm (UTC)
I think you may have jumped the gun a bit by posting this. Yes, the trade has been in the works for about two years, but you only got back in contact with her and gave her the information about what you wanted to receive 25 weeks (6 or 7 months) ago. And during that 6-7 months, she got divorced and went through a move. That stuff eats up a LOT of time and energy, and probably made her feel pretty awful, to boot. I don't blame her for not wanting to work on a trade image during that time.

It's also not cool that you warn her on Friday that you'll be dragging her name through the mud "within the week," and then you post it early Monday. She told you she is going to be at a convention--which means she will have no internet access, and no way to scan your artwork and get it to you. Patience is a virtue, and her telling you "I'm sorry, I'll get it to you right after the convention," should at least earn her the courtesy of seeing if she delivers on that.

Make sure to keep this post updated, because if she pops up with an image in the next few days, people need to know that she was able to finish it when it was decided that she would finish it.
dragonfoxdemon
May. 24th, 2010 08:13 pm (UTC)
I do not intend to post in run, that is not my intention. If the trade comes through, the community will know.
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teacup_werewolf
May. 24th, 2010 08:57 pm (UTC)
She was being unprofessional end of story.
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