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AVOID: DeRangedGraphiArtist/CaboGuyMedia

This is a bit of an add-on to this post here. I was given the okay to make an individual post on it.

DeRangedGraphiArtist opened a thread in the DA Job Offers Forum, needing a logo and mascot for his company which was a "Chiquita Banana competitor". He stated payment as $50 for each and only half up front, and needed 3 reworks per image. No mention of copyright, royalties, etc.

So I'm reading through, noting how many people were mentioning the price being too low. One person chimed in and the OP responded very rudely to him. I called him out on his unnecessarily harsh treatment of a potential client. I have almost 7 years of experience in customer service and you do NOT treat people that way. Absolutely not.

level 4 NPC enters - meets level 12 arseface

I go off and do things IRL. I come back several hours later to find a lovely note in my inbox, from DeRangedGraphiArtist, and figure he's come to tell me off for calling him on the behavior.

Nope. Instead he takes a personal attack on my portfolio and my talent as an artist.

level 12 shitstorm ensues

I'm furious to the point where I'm shaking. This was completely uncalled for and pretty much out of left field. I reply to the thread, thanking him for the unruly way he's treated me and warned him no one would want to work with someone who has no skills in customer service or HUMAN DECENCY for that matter. In comes surprise! an account that sounds just like him and rips me down a few more pegs.

THEY HAVE A CAVETROLL

I included the bottom part of the page to show how CaboGuyMedia responds as the OP to an artist's offer, leading me to believe this was a second account for this creep.

Needless to say, I would never work for this person even if he paid me properly and with a big honking tip. If you look in the first page of the comments on the thread, he's perfectly nice and ass-pat-ish if he likes your work, even if one says his budget's cheap. He seems to like to tear you down if he's not into your style.

AVOID.

p.s. sorry for the RPG and LOTR refs for link titles. i tried to amuse myself while posting this, as i'm still quite angry about it.

[EDIT!] Now it just gets lulzy. That sock or whatever, CaboGuyMedia, posted a thread that I was made aware of here, so I went off to do my duty and warn the masses there too.

it just gets nonsensical and pathetic at this point.

I had to paste it together because DA is moronic and likes to break pages in the middle of comment threads. Also pointing out that bottom comment, which is just like Really? REALLY? Whatever, then.
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schwarzdrache
Apr. 15th, 2010 07:24 am (UTC)
The more I read this the more annoyed I'm getting. It's kinda annoying though that despite the prices and the attitude, there are still.. takers for this 'ad' and people are still willing to consider working for this person.
haricotvert
Apr. 15th, 2010 08:01 am (UTC)
*shakes head* even after all the grief i've been given publicly. either people are just ignant or they're not reading before posting.
weirdmisty
Apr. 15th, 2010 07:29 am (UTC)
I make it a point to steer clear of commission requests on deviantart forums. They have a much higher ratio of nutjobs to normal commissioners than anywhere I've seen.
haricotvert
Apr. 15th, 2010 08:00 am (UTC)
yeeeeeeah. I poke through now and again in hopes of a diamond in the pile of shit, but 99.9% of the time it's not worth it.
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haricotvert
Apr. 15th, 2010 08:19 am (UTC)
that's an adorable way to put it. :3
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haricotvert
Apr. 15th, 2010 07:59 am (UTC)
oh my god please tell me that's an actual community on LJ!
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armaina
Apr. 15th, 2010 08:11 am (UTC)
wow, the note was completely out of line. I don't know if you've done so already but you'll want to report that along with the follow up comments made. The comments in the thread may not be cause to take any action, but an unprovoked note of harassment is.
haricotvert
Apr. 15th, 2010 08:18 am (UTC)
I've reported the note to the helpdesk and I talked to someone personally through the forum admin's chat about the thread. he didn't seem too worried about my report, so I don't really expect anything from that. and i've been informed that they won't care about the note because it's "private conversation" and they'll do diddly, even though it was unprovoked.
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zoom_gas
Apr. 15th, 2010 08:14 am (UTC)
I'm sure you're just beside yourself with grief at losing the chance to be a part of his lucrative banana venture
haricotvert
Apr. 15th, 2010 08:18 am (UTC)
this and your icon made me LOL for real. goddammit i need to go to bed already.

bananas suck anyway. :/
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lobotomysoup
Apr. 15th, 2010 08:53 am (UTC)
you know, I doubt he is even going to pay that fifty bucks for whatever he gets anyway.
He'll prob take something, say it was rejected and use that. Lets hope the person who gets duped keeps records and brings him to court.
haricotvert
Apr. 15th, 2010 06:10 pm (UTC)
I'm laughing because he told me he just paid someone $800 for another job. YEAH AND I'M THE EMPEROR OF CHINA.
lichdog
Apr. 15th, 2010 09:11 am (UTC)
He couldn't beat Chiquita bananas anyway even if he had the best goddamned logo on the planet.



Edited at 2010-04-15 09:11 am (UTC)
ulariogryphon
Apr. 15th, 2010 04:35 pm (UTC)
Hell, he couldn't compete with Chiquita Banana even if Leonardo DaVinci himself created the logo. o_O
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epiceternity
Apr. 15th, 2010 09:28 am (UTC)
I like how in a round about way he implies that if you're willing to do this work for $50 you must not be very good, not have a job and be really desperate to accept such a low amount XD

CaboGuyMedia "I paid $800 to one DA artist" screams he's the same guy. Like dur DeRangedGraphiArtist!
haricotvert
Apr. 15th, 2010 06:12 pm (UTC)
.....holy crap. i didn't see that. how did i not see that? LULZ!

he didn't try very hard, did he.
maddogairpirate
Apr. 15th, 2010 11:01 am (UTC)
Aww, isn't that cute. He's a narcissist.

Actually I think it's a real service to let people know what he's like. Prevents him from using people as easily.
haricotvert
Apr. 15th, 2010 06:13 pm (UTC)
which is why i'm glad i could make the post. I wouldn't subject my worst enemy to that nonsense.
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underthebed
Apr. 15th, 2010 01:09 pm (UTC)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdS4ANOEXO0

Boot to the head indeed. Sound like this Ed Gruberman needs a lesson in how to commission an artist properly. ^_~
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plushabilities
Apr. 15th, 2010 12:57 pm (UTC)
I'm...I'm calling troll. No one can be that crass in a professional situation.
thedancingemu
Apr. 15th, 2010 03:52 pm (UTC)
I'm thinking troll as well, some of what he's said is just too over the top :\
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celestinaketzia
Apr. 15th, 2010 01:49 pm (UTC)
Heh, if he is for real, I would somehow get a hold of his company email and shoot his boss a note about his behavior. That is completely unnecessary, especially if he is doing it on company time.
haricotvert
Apr. 15th, 2010 06:20 pm (UTC)
I WOULD LOVE TO DO THIS.
frisket17
Apr. 15th, 2010 02:25 pm (UTC)
His other "alt" account has another thread up that others may wish to steer away from:

http://forum.deviantart.com/jobs/offers/1447966/


While it states the already pre-warned name, found it odd he/she'd create multiple accounts to post more 'opportunities' for DA artists.
kohaku_chimaera
Apr. 15th, 2010 04:04 pm (UTC)
Sports-playing Chester/Dissidia hybrid..?

wat @@;
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oceandezignz
Apr. 15th, 2010 04:17 pm (UTC)
See I knew there was a reason bananas were disgusting to me. D: That's proof right there.
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