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Lazeros/Shesta/Inkpaw [EDIT resolved]

I had a little issue with this artist
(the purple text is me and the light blue text is her's)


9/08/09
I was going through the journals on my message center on FA when I came across a journal written by Shesta, where she's offering some chibi commissions. So I approached her for one and I wrote:


I'd like a cell shaded chibi pic of Kolos

http://www.furaffinity.net/view/2437264/


to which she replied:

Okies, You don't have to pay until it's completed, okies? I'll add you to the list and get started <33

she also sent me two notes, one was:

Ohh I forgot to ask, chibi anthro, or chibi ferral?

and another one is:

ohh shoot :C I went and did it feral... Is it still okay? http://www.furaffinity.net/view/2766689

to which I replied:

yeah I only needed Kolos to be anthro, too. Besides, Kolos is a male, not female

and she responded:

Okies, I'll redo it XD

so she did this while waiting for my approval, and so I did approve it. And she told that she'll send me the note when she's finished

but a few months later, nothing yet.

1/29/10
When she recently moved to her new FA account, Inkpaw, I've sent her a note, reminding her about the commission while also asking for her PayPal address, but she didn't answer (maybe she overlooked it)

3/30/10
she posted a commission price journal and I commented on it asking her did she still remember the commission that she still owe me, but still no response

more to update (if she does respond)

[EDIT] Problem Resolved

4/01/10
She finally responded, saying,

it has?? I'm very sorry, it should be on the next batch of Chibis coming up.
I don't mean to just disappear, I run between a few different art sites, so I'm very sorry for the wait.

you don't have to pay until I have it uploaded for you.


(she finally showed her paypal address, but I don't wanna show it here in public)

again, I apologize for the wait.


and so I've sent $15 to here paypal and I'm keeping my fingers crossed for her to finish this pic I've ordered



I find it ironic that she does owe me a commission, but didn't respond to my notes/messages reminding her about it. I'm not saying that you should avoid her (in fact her art is amazing, cute and beautiful), but did anyone else had that similar problem with her?
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Comments

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blackswan666
Apr. 1st, 2010 10:52 pm (UTC)
I can understand the frustration of no communication, but on the other hand, you aren't out any money, either. I'd say just keep up with getting a reply out of here, but other than that... sure, it's disappointing, but you've not given her money.
latiro
Apr. 1st, 2010 11:01 pm (UTC)
well I hadn't sent any cash to her yet due to the fact that she hasn't even showed her paypal address to me yet
koisnake
Apr. 1st, 2010 11:13 pm (UTC)
It's her lose more than yours. I don't think you should ruin her reputation just because she doesn't want get paid.

She doesn't owe you anything if you didn't pay.

The only thing you can do is keep contacting her, but other than that, enjoy your free pic, heh heh. If she isn't responsible enough to get back to you, then you shouldn't even be worrying about this.
blackswan666
Apr. 1st, 2010 11:35 pm (UTC)
This!
slashaddict
Apr. 1st, 2010 11:36 pm (UTC)
This also!
onesteptwo
Apr. 2nd, 2010 12:59 am (UTC)
I don't think the OP is trying to ruin her reputation. The last couple of lines did ask if anyone else had had this problem with the artist and mentioned "I'm not saying don't commission her".
anjel_kitty
Apr. 1st, 2010 11:34 pm (UTC)
Oh the bright side, its really cool of you to go through this much effort to pay her for her work. There needs to be more commissioners like you out there for people who actually still do art up front and then receive payment.
baronyiffington
Apr. 1st, 2010 11:53 pm (UTC)
Really, she's just harming herself. You're out no money, she's out whatever money you would have paid for the art.
latiro
Apr. 2nd, 2010 02:07 am (UTC)
I've sent her a note telling her it's been almost a year and she finally responded, giving me her paypal address to send her the cash, and gave some apologies
gaaralover85
Apr. 2nd, 2010 12:58 pm (UTC)
When i commissioned her two or three years back she was pretty slow getting back to me, getting the work out when i'd ordered it (with a pretty reasonable deadline at the time) She ignored me for a few months, regardless of numerous notes and emails. She does deliver the work (eventually) but sometimes it's not quite what you order, or she changes the sketch which you approved and such to something quite different. Not necessarily bad, but sometimes just not what you ordered. I mean, i was just happy she'd delivered at the end of the day to complain too much about the content being changed :/

I don't know whether its forgetting exactly what you asked for, life getting in the way or otherwise. I think you will get your artwork, and i don't know if she changed her business practice since i commissioned her, i don't think she'll mess you around anymore. You just have to carry on badgering her about it to remind her you're there. So if she does just drop off and forget about you just carry on reminding her she owes you the art. You can't go far wrong.

xxx
shestah
Jul. 11th, 2010 10:21 pm (UTC)
Gaaralover, I did my very best to deliver a commission for you that you would love. You didn't seem thrilled with the original approved sketch, so I went above and beyond to make something you would like better. I'm sorry I failed you. But honestly, you could have told me so instead of letting me find it here.

I take a long time on my commissions because I try to do the best work possible. I know when I order a commission of my character, no one bothers to use ANY effort. I get it fast and shitty. I do my best to make sure I don't do that to my commissioners because I value them and wish to make their characters to the best of my ability.
gaaralover85
Jul. 12th, 2010 07:32 pm (UTC)
Laz,

Firstly I'd like to say that the way i worded the previous comment was slightly off, and i apologise for that. Things have been pretty rough on my end so civilities in comments has been a little off to normal.

In no way did i say that i hated the final piece you did for me all those years ago. I loved the original sketch, despite you saying i wasn't thrilled, and i'm pretty sure i said so on the piece when you uploaded it. I only asked for a couple things to be changed if my memory serves me right, and they were minor like a waterfall or something similar in the background and making him bigger. So when you completed the final piece, although it was gorgeous and lovely in a different way, it wasn't the piece i'd approved. Which is a statement of fact, you didn't run by the new sketch for approval by me before completing the piece. At the time i was new to commissioning people, and the whole process. You were THE FIRST person I commissioned, so i apologise for not saying anything when you'd completed an entire piece. I didn't want to add any further work onto your plate. I didn't think this was right to do so considering the circumstances.

Because you had taken a long time getting the commission to me, and had been in some pretty rough times at that point, i didn't want to add to your problems by saying "this isn't what i wanted, change it" I loved it in a different way, and still do, i didn't hate it and you didn't fail me. It was slightly disappointing that it wasn't the sketch i'd approved, and that you couldn't meet the october cut-off date i gave you. But i understood that life takes prescidence over internet dealings and I also understand that artistic inspiration works on pieces in different ways. I would've no doubt had approved the sketch had you had showed me it, and said "if it inspires you more go right ahead" However hindsight is a wonderful thing in these circumstances. It was three years ago after all.

I posted on here because when i commissioned you I had similar problems with getting hold of you, whether intentional or not. Knowing how many times you'd changed accounts in the space of this past year or so I figured that if i was having trouble keeping track, considering how long I've watched you, then other people would too. I know how much you'd been moving, and how hard it was to communicate with you all those years ago and it did take numerous attempts at contact with you to get responses to things when i asked them. Telling the OP to carry on trying to get hold of you, because of these difficulties was, at least in my mind, the best thing to do.

Anyway, signing off now before i put my foot in my mouth any further.

x
shestah
Jan. 11th, 2011 12:11 am (UTC)
Thank you for getting back to me, and I'm sorry I didn't see this a lot sooner.

I'm really sorry I bit your head off in my last post, the last two years have been the worst of my life, and I didn't mean to take any of it out on you.

I didn't mean to change up the background or poses or whichever I might have done (I can't remember right now) Back then, I think you were close to one of my first commissioners, and looking back, I don't think I delivered what you wanted, and I'm sorry for that.

When I found I was mentioned on this site by two commissioners, I was so overwhelmed with sadness, that I answered comments while I was upset, a true no no. :C

While I know it's in the past, I at least offer up that I'm trying to get better with contact, which is why many are given my cell number as well as the other art sites I frequent. I'm hoping that as I truck on that I can make the perfect experience for my commissioners, this way they don't feel the need to voice their unhappiness in places like this.

Again, my apologies for responding in such an upset kind of way :C I hope it's something forgivable in time...

shestah
Jul. 11th, 2010 10:21 pm (UTC)
God I love how you people find it necessary to make posts like this. Your commission will be completed. I did one commission for you, but it wasn't approved, so I offered another one. I showed you the sketch, but I have other commissions I'm working on for numerous other people. If improving the commissions people order from me is not wanted, they can say so. I will put no extra effort forth if it is not desired.

Also, if you want to talk to me about the commission, note me on Deviantart. I'm always there. I'm not on FA often, just when I'm uploading work.

Gaaralover, I did my very best to deliver a commission for you that you would love. You didn't seem thrilled with the original approved sketch, so I went above and beyond to make something you would like better. I'm sorry I failed you. But honestly, you could have told me so instead of letting me find it here.

I take a long time on my commissions because I try to do the best work possible. I know when I order a commission of my character, no one bothers to use ANY effort. I get it fast and shitty. I do my best to make sure I don't do that to my commissioners because I value them and wish to make their characters to the best of my ability.

Lati, I told you I'm working on it. I'm sorry that isn't enough for you. I will post it when it is completed.
latiro
Jul. 12th, 2010 12:13 am (UTC)
cool beans!
I'm glad to hear you're getting around to my commission :-) I'll try to note ya
shestah
Jul. 12th, 2010 12:41 am (UTC)
I sent you a note on FA that shows the current WIP. I had gone ahead and upgraded it as I knew you had been waiting...

Honestly, I don't know what my commissioners really want. I thought upgrading the commissions and making them better was always a good thing. I understand this made getting the finished product a slow going thing, but it was always done with the best intentions in mind.

Looking back at this LJ post, I can see that there was an upload of the old sketch, so if you want, I can finish that one. But I thought you may prefer the upgraded one I just sent you over FA.

Note me as to which should be finished.
Thanks
shestah
Jan. 11th, 2011 12:21 am (UTC)
I wanted to thank you for marking your problem resolved, and apologize for my attitude when posting here to you. :C whether it was marked resolved or not, I was definitely out of line with how upset I was about it.

When I first found this site, I was overwhelmed to find two complaints. One turned out to be just a friend of someone who already got their art, but you were legitimately posting for contact information, and I am SO SORRY for being so curt. I'm really ashamed of it actually...

I'm really glad you liked your commission in the end, and I'm so sorry it took me so long to get around to redoing it for you. I'm getting to understand the use of sites like this now, and the fact that they can be important for a lot of reasons. I hope in time you might forgive me for my treatment towards you when I read this... It wasn't fair to you.

Thank you for commissioning me, I hope to be a lot more grown up and responsible with the commissions I take in the future ;^;
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