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Drawing for Games

Recently someone has approached me about drawing art (on a paid basis) for an online pet game. Should I ask for pay like it was a regular commission (i.e. one time fee)? If anyone has had any experience with this, I'd love to hear about it. Any advice would be much appreciated. Thanks!

Update: Just letting you guys know that thanks for all the Lurapets warnings, but it wasn't them.

It's a lady who goes by "Trinity" on Furry Paws, who says she's planning on launching a pet game. My main confusion is whether to charge her like an individual or like a commercial business, since she may or may not actually create said game. So far she wants me to draw a "logo" (it's actually just a scene of dogs doing stuff). We haven't discussed prices yet, since I wanted to hear back from here first.


Update 2: Thanks for all the advice guys! I'll be treating this like a company account. If anyone has any input on what should be included in the contract, please let me know. That'd be great!

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thanatoast
Mar. 14th, 2010 08:11 am (UTC)
Eh, idk man. I do lots of petsite work myself, but it's almost always for "fun". Any money I get is just a bonus.

ps, the commissioner wouldn't happen to be "bluemcgee" or something to that effect on DA would it?
lemonfruitpie
Mar. 14th, 2010 10:16 am (UTC)
Oh I see! Do you do it just because you enjoying playing the game?

And nope, it isn't. She goes by "Trinity" on Furry Paws.
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thaily
Mar. 14th, 2010 08:20 am (UTC)
eski did illustration for a Facebook game, maybe you can send her a message?
pretty_omi
Mar. 14th, 2010 10:04 am (UTC)
I think there was a scam artist who constantly tries to solicit artists for a pet game, but I can't remember a name or anything about him.... :
thanatoast
Mar. 14th, 2010 11:09 pm (UTC)
His name was Ken.
dangercrow
Mar. 14th, 2010 10:04 am (UTC)
Don't fall for it if it's for Lurapets. There's plenty of horrors in that department.
lozpie
Mar. 14th, 2010 10:07 am (UTC)
lol i got a message from him and after i quoted my price range he ran a mile.
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lemonfruitpie
Mar. 14th, 2010 10:22 am (UTC)
The thing is, as far as I know so far it's just one lady who is trying to start her own pet game site. She already said she'll pay me in USD, although we haven't started talking prices yet since I wanted to hear back from you guys first. So far, she's just been asking for a "logo" (which actually is a scene of dogs doing various things).

I guess the main thing that confuses me about this situation is that I'm not sure whether to charge her like an individual customer or a company, since who knows if she'll actually launch the game.

Thanks for all the info though! I appreciate it.

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summersaulte
Mar. 14th, 2010 10:19 am (UTC)
If it is a guy named 'Ken' or the site is Lurapets, don't do it, or look into it because I know Ken isn't an uncommon name. There was a guy by that name who scammed me and a lot of other artists out of free art.

But if it's not him, enjoy the wonderful advice from people. :DS
lemonfruitpie
Mar. 14th, 2010 10:31 am (UTC)
Nope, not him! But thanks for the heads up anyways :)
armaina
Mar. 14th, 2010 11:08 am (UTC)
First and foremost, petsite are a commercial endeavor. No matter what they claim it's commercial and they need to pay for the rights of your art. Just because they aren't making profit now doesn't mean they never will. It's like if someone were to ask you to do some design work for a product but want to stiff you on the bill because they haven't made any money on the product yet.

I'm really getting a little sick of seeing pet site after pet site pop up and expect to pay personal rates for the work for their site and I'm even more bothered that this is becoming the norm (thanks subeta). Artists need to put their foot down across the board and demand practical rates for their work as it is a commercial service.

So, be firm in your negotiations, consider the prices for transferring rights, and don't let the commissioner walk over you.
pouncewhisper
Mar. 14th, 2010 12:29 pm (UTC)
Well I'm actually working for a petsite (As an admin not an artist though) and our artist department is paid via alpha account and petsite money, same as the rest of us. It's brand new and there's no way Loony could pay everyone actual money, so we're all more or less volunteering. Then again we KNOW him, and we know he's actually working on Eternal Glade.

I have to agree if you're approached out of the blue by someone asking for pet-site designs, especially if they can't show you an at least started website or dedicated forum for the site where they're listed as founder, make sure you get the money, and that you get it upfront.

You'll have to develop your own policy for whether you treat it like a 'company' account or like a 'commission' account, but whichever you do, don't waffle on it.

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millilicious
Mar. 14th, 2010 03:14 pm (UTC)
Totally OT, but Ebisu--yesssss<3<3
lemonfruitpie
Mar. 15th, 2010 01:14 am (UTC)
She is the best<3
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lemonfruitpie
Mar. 15th, 2010 01:14 am (UTC)
Will do!
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lemonfruitpie
Mar. 15th, 2010 01:15 am (UTC)
Ah ok! Thanks for the reply, it helped clear up some of my confusion as to why they would want the rights.
celestinaketzia
Mar. 14th, 2010 04:27 pm (UTC)
I was working as a head admin/ owner for a petsite for a while. We had only one paid artist while the rest were volunteer. (It was between them and the previous owner, not me.) If I remember correctly, Kitty was paid per pet, and every additional pose was extra.

Definitely do treat it as a business commission, and think about pricing your work accordingly. Kitty only got paid $5 per pet, and looking back, that was ridiculous considering that it was her lovely pet designs that brought people in.

Edit: I should say, that if Malveasor is still around, you should talk to him. He did a lot of paid work with Nutrinopets before he came to us at Sensipets.

Edited at 2010-03-14 04:30 pm (UTC)
lemonfruitpie
Mar. 15th, 2010 01:18 am (UTC)
Oh wow, that is pretty ridiculous indeed. Thanks for the suggestion, I'll try to look him up.
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