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Watch out!

His name is Troy Mills or Whitewolf_wi or (newer) Shadowhusky
I know a small few of you have had encounters with him

Hes been on and off wanting a fursuit from me for about 3 years, and as always I gave him a quote and didnt expect anything from him. This time however he had cash in hand and wanted a husky head to match some paws and a tail he got off furbid. I told him 195.00 for the head becuase i knew he had money issues and becuase I had been dealing with him for so long. So he sent me 125 which I promptly used to order fur, get foam,glue and other supplies whick went up in price around here (but where has it not?), and ended up using like 10 bucks of my own cash for things, no biggie.
Well tonight He didnt seem thrilled about the fact I had not begun furring, even after explaing prior that it may be pushed back becuase we lost 2 people at work and there are 4 of us for two shops leaving me with full time hours + overtime and not much time to myself for fursuit work or anything else. First he said it was fine a few days later he got mad and accused me of lying to him about how far I was on the work and demanded a refund, I explaind that I already wasnt going to make much off the head to begin with and had already spent the money on supplies. He then name called,and other nasty things.

He has a habbit of emailing drunk,having massive mood swings if you dont reply back to him with in a day, taking weeks or even months to tell you he dosnt have the cash for the commission anymore and then some, and then will try his best to sling mud on whoever he sees as "being rude" for the smallest things like simply saying that your not open for work at the moment or the fact he has to make a deposit before he can book a spot.

I just wanted to let the rest of you know.

Be wary!
Artist's beware has moved!
Do NOT repost your old bewares. They are being archived.


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Mar. 4th, 2010 07:10 pm (UTC)
You might want to edit your LJ link to just read the thread itself:


In regards to this person, I'd say refund him and work on the head for someone else. (It looks like someone wants you to on the Fursuit thread.)
Mar. 4th, 2010 07:17 pm (UTC)
Thank you ^_^ Yeppers I emailed the guy. (Lucky break)
Mar. 4th, 2010 07:47 pm (UTC)
Did you have him sign a TOS of the agreement when you start commission? With a volatile commissioner like that it is always good to have these thing for liability issues on your end, especially in terms of deadlines and refunds. Also 195 is sure low and for a commissioned fursuit head, especially since you are making -10 dollars profit. I can see selling a pre-made head for that if you made it out of scrap fur, but you should seriously up your prices if you want to make a profit out of this. 300 for the head he is asking for wouldn't have been unreasonable at all...

Thanks for the heads up on this guy. I'm only going to sell pre-made heads but he will be good to warn my friends who do custom orders about.

On a final note, Gmail has this cool feature that makes you solve simplisitc math problems before you email, so if you are too drunk to solve these math problems, you can't send your email. It has saved me a few times. That guy should see about installing it to take down his email regret.

Edited at 2010-03-04 07:48 pm (UTC)
Mar. 4th, 2010 08:17 pm (UTC)
Gmail does? It never has for me. I just type and send.
Mar. 4th, 2010 08:19 pm (UTC)
Its a lab feature you can enable. If you go into your labs tab and scroll down, I think its called Mail Goggles:
Google strives to make the world's information useful. Mail you send late night on the weekends may be useful but you may regret it the next morning. Solve some simple math problems and you're good to go. Otherwise, get a good night's sleep and try again in the morning. After enabling this feature, you can adjust the schedule in the "General" settings page.

I have mine set to pop off any time I send an email between 10 pm and 5 am
Mar. 4th, 2010 08:36 pm (UTC)
Mar. 4th, 2010 08:45 pm (UTC)
That's awesome, I never heard of that before XD
Mar. 4th, 2010 08:46 pm (UTC)
I recommend it! It keeps your math skills sharp, and helps prevent email regret during those late nights when you shouldn't be sending off that email to being with.
Mar. 5th, 2010 10:10 am (UTC)
Yeah I know its really really cheap, I was trying to be nice -_- So much for that! Lol
Mar. 4th, 2010 08:12 pm (UTC)
... erk.

Not sure if you're just posting a beware (which is fine!) or looking for advice on how to handle the situation. If also the latter:

Do you have a TOS about whether money is refundable or not, and what the policy is if a commission is canceled? Personally since ALL the money went towards supplies, I think you could get away with just sending him what you got and washing your hands of it. You'd still be out $10 some work, and aggravation, but at least you'd be free of dealing with him. (though at a guess he'd still harass you and badmouth you)

Unfortunately if you finished and sold the head at auction I'm not sure you'd get enough money for a refund + compensation for your work.
Alternatively, if you haven't done a lot of work I suppose you could try to put it towards someone else's custom commission, then you'd be able to refund him?

As much as I think he deserves it, I don't think it'd be good professional ettiquite to just keep his money and send him nothing :/ Perhaps a partial refund is in order, since he is the one canceling after you've bought supplies that would be fair. Of course, if you have a TOS in place to outline what exactly happens, then do that!

If you already know what you're going to do about it I'd be curious what your policy is!

Edited at 2010-03-04 08:14 pm (UTC)
Mar. 4th, 2010 08:21 pm (UTC)
There's someone in the other post already fishing to purchase a husky head, so doesn't look too grim if they want to sell it off. :]
Mar. 4th, 2010 08:26 pm (UTC)
Mar. 5th, 2010 10:19 am (UTC)
Once he calmes down and stops swearing and cussing im willing to made a deal for somekind of refund. Also this was a beware and the other post on a diffrent page was for what the heck do i do now. Thank you for the advise here too though!
Mar. 5th, 2010 08:21 am (UTC)
Don't know if you saw the other post that just went up about this guy, http://community.livejournal.com/artists_beware/304415.html

But he's saying that he's going to have you sell some paws for him. http://i318.photobucket.com/albums/mm401/ah_editing/troy6.jpg

So I guess head's up that he wants to deal with you again, for some bizarre reason?
Mar. 5th, 2010 10:13 am (UTC)
Oh man what? And thank you BladeSpark
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