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So I have a question regarding one's own commission rules and etiquette in general.

The commissioner http://www.furaffinity.net/user/k9tanegsd
And the work I did for him http://www.furaffinity.net/full/2701441/



A month ago I have received one commission request, where a user asked for a 2-character picture with plain background. No specifications about lights, shadows, bg, atmosphere. In other words - nothing at all. In these cases I treat requests like that as "artist's free choice".
So I've finished and sent it to the commissioner. Later I've received a complain regarding the dark colors. I've tried to explain the situation that, firstly, such colors are highly linked with the picture's atmosphere, secondly, I've picked them from the previous picture of the same character, thirdly, they (the colors) look okay on my and other monitors.
And after it the commissioner, so to say, threatened me to tell his friends and etc not to commission me at all, because I'm a bad artist, egoist, lazy, obliged to do everything because the commissioner paid me and other things like that.
All in all, I've sent him the corrected version (after all) but the accusations haven't ended with that. The user also uploaded an edited version of my original picture with smeared colors and cut nose despite that I have a rules page where is clearly said that I only edit the sketches and I am not responsible for any information which has not be provided before I started coloring.

And here is the main point of my post. What should i do to make those people stop gossiping behind my back? Or I just have to try and forget about them? I'm not a pro-artist and don't have any real job yet, so I can only rely on commissions for a matter of time.





EDIT:

It seems that the user or the staff have removed the edited submission. No replies in the "open tickets" section, so I'm not sure.

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lilenth
Sep. 7th, 2009 07:49 pm (UTC)

Even the best of us can have sour commissions, your best bet is to ignore the person and to carry on pleasing other customers, a hundred pleased clients outweigh one with a chip on his shoulder.

If your reputation is otherwise good, one disgruntled person isn't likely to be an issue.
hasegawa_vega
Sep. 7th, 2009 07:52 pm (UTC)
I know this and yet I feel miserable. But thank you for the support.
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hamburger
Sep. 7th, 2009 07:51 pm (UTC)
You can't make anyone do anything is the bottom line. In the end if you've tried to satisfy them the only thing you can do at this point and defend yourself if they bring it to a public forum (such as communities like this).
skulldog
Sep. 7th, 2009 07:57 pm (UTC)
Name names, I want to know who this is I can avoid them, I feel sorry for you, I can't stand 'entitlement' issues like this person seems to have.

Like said above, just keep doing good work, and the happy customers will outweigh this one loser.
hobokitten
Sep. 7th, 2009 07:59 pm (UTC)
This please.
This person seems like a quite huge Bware.
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mazz
Sep. 7th, 2009 08:07 pm (UTC)
Sounds like you did nothing wrong and the commissioner is trying to scare you into free art or is just a dick.
Ignore them, they'll get over themselves, and move on with your life. If you have a good reputation one jerk acting like an immature jerk isn't going to screw you at all(all I've heard from people who have commissioned you is good so this one guy won't change that).

Please update with who this is. Sounds like someone a lot of us would want to avoid.
hasegawa_vega
Sep. 7th, 2009 08:24 pm (UTC)
I didn't want to specify any usernames here to avoid further disorders if they discover me here. But if you want it so much, i can share the information. Just let me know.
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hybrid_xisha
Sep. 7th, 2009 08:55 pm (UTC)
Wow, reading the nasty comments this guy and one of his friends left you, I definitely would not give or accept money from either of them. Especially that bit about telling you that you're lucky the guy chose to credit you at all for your work. I don't do commissions anymore, but if I ever do them again: They are both blacklisted!
thaily
Sep. 7th, 2009 09:26 pm (UTC)
I notice he schlepped some brown on the gun-arm which completely ruins the foreshortening. People who know nothing of art shouldn't fuck around with other people's work, at least not without permission :/

I think your art looks quite nice, has he paid you yet? If so, how much, because I doubt he paid you enough to also buy the rights to edit the work. Or enough to put up with his bullshit for that matter.

If it were me I'd send a complaint to staff and ask them to remove the image from the customer's archive, you're still the copyright holder and entitled to have it removed. This will of course start a furry drama whiny wanking fest about the rights they think they're entitled to, so you'll have to decide for yourself if it's worth it.

Otherwise, amend the comment on the upload in your own archive with direct quotes from this person so other people can make up their minds about this guy.
That might still trigger more simpering, mind. But at least your side of the story will be out there.
hasegawa_vega
Sep. 7th, 2009 09:34 pm (UTC)
Yes. I always ask for the payment in advance. It was a $30 commission if I remember it correctly.

And I think I'll just let it as it is and move on with my future work.
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jakejynx
Sep. 7th, 2009 10:55 pm (UTC)
He seriously ruined your art with that shitty edit. It was a very nice image.

I really think your art speaks for itself--it's very good. I noticed in other comments, you're worried about not finding people to commission you. You just need more exposure, because you do have a style that a lot of people like. Definitely get his edit removed from FA, and after that, try to just ignore it. If he wants to be a dick, let him.
take_walker
Sep. 8th, 2009 01:16 am (UTC)
I am posting this post because you, sir, have a freaking sweet avatar. :D
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obsidianwolfess
Sep. 7th, 2009 11:30 pm (UTC)
What a fucking wanker. If he can't see the muzzle (which I can, just fine), he needs a brighter monitor.

Don't pay attention to him, this piece of art is good. I think it's incredible that he can be such a pain in the ass about your work, yet turn around and say he loves this -- http://www.furaffinity.net/view/2718825 ?? I'm so confused.
mosskat
Sep. 7th, 2009 11:50 pm (UTC)
There are so many things wrong with this issue I cannot even begin to comment on it. This guy is blacklisted.
filthy_animal
Sep. 8th, 2009 12:47 am (UTC)
I would definitely contact the admins on FA about this (and link to this entry as well) to try to get the edit removed. :c
hasegawa_vega
Sep. 8th, 2009 04:26 am (UTC)
I've contacted them already. Just need to wait now.
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casteddreams
Sep. 8th, 2009 01:06 am (UTC)
I can see the muzzle just fine. I don't see how it's too dark at all. :\
It's his problem that his monitor can't show colors properly, not yours.

You did nothing wrong in my eyes.

I'll remember to stay clear of him. Thank you for sharing with us.
frazzled_niya
Sep. 8th, 2009 03:27 am (UTC)
Me things this idiot needs to recalibrate him moniter...Or its on its way out and he needs to replace it ~__~;...what an idiot!
ninykinin
Sep. 8th, 2009 11:35 am (UTC)
I posted this to 2ndVenus after she/he gave you incorrect information on artists rights, so i'm posting it here to for anyone whos wondering...

A commissioner pays for the services and covers the cost of supplies. They do not own the copyrighted image. The copyright will remain with the artist.
From a legal standpoint, no they can't change things as they do not own the copyright and therefor have no rights when it comes to editing an artists work, unless the artists Terms Of Conditions says otherwise.

I find copyright law absolutely fascinating and I get a kick out of educating people.


Source:
"Protect your creative-A guide to intellectual property for Australia's graphic designers. Including multimedia, photography, advertising, animation, illustration, copywriting and paper merchandising." 2008
State Government Of Victoria
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