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Beware of artists that don't care

To keep things short, this is a message to all of you that plan to commission or are waiting for your commission from the well known Soty. I don't know what experiences he's offered to others in the past, but I feel the need to share mine since the community has a right to know who's worth their salt and who isn't.

Back on March 1st of 2008, I got in contact with Soty to do a 6 page full color commission with simple backgrounds, $20 pages each and totaling $120. He quoted me a general time frame of one to two weeks to have said commission done. Unfortunately, this was not the case. As soon as all 6 sketches for the commission was completed roughly a month later ( http://www.furaffinity.net/view/1804931/ - Warning: Weird beastie content ) the ball was completely dropped. Soty never picked up the commission at where it was left off, though he would always invite me and his friends to watch him draw in OC, some of which were uploaded, most of which weren't. Every time I would confront Soty on this, which was on more than one occasion, he would merely apologize, state he would knuckle down, then turn around and either OC with some more of his friends or spend hours if not days playing games on Steam such as Team Fortress 2.

Just recently, as some of you might know, Soty busted out on UStream and literally spent hours upon hours starting and finishing a highly detailed picture when all that time could have very well been spent finishing what needs to be finished.

So here we are, May 28th of 2009 with $120 spent on incomplete sketches and nothing done other than meaningless OCs, UStreams, and hours wasted on video games.

Soty, if you do happen to read this, I want you to understand that this post is nothing personal ( though I know you'll take it as such ). I will be posting a followup on the issue once it's resolved so both my fans and your fans know the outcome. I only hope that the outcome is worthwhile.

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zackfig
Jun. 1st, 2009 12:11 am (UTC)
Been there - one time I waited for 18 months for a commission to be completed because the artist just didnt care enough and the commission had been paid full in advance
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bladespark
Jun. 1st, 2009 12:25 am (UTC)
This.

This post reads like a personal attack intended to hurt the other party, rather than like a calm warning or an attempt to resolve things.
zackfig
Jun. 1st, 2009 01:29 am (UTC)
Not really meaningless but somewhat inane when you're doing it for a kick and not getting paid for it while you got paid to do something and just put it in the backburner instead.
anjel_kitty
Jun. 1st, 2009 12:31 am (UTC)
Your fans and his fans?
lyosha
Jun. 1st, 2009 01:03 am (UTC)
I am so glad I'm not the only person who was bothered by that.
purpule
Jun. 1st, 2009 01:26 am (UTC)
Oh, I am too, I just didn't catch it before I made my comment!
celestinaketzia
Jun. 1st, 2009 01:34 am (UTC)
Oh, it bothers the hell out of me. It just makes the OP seem full of herself.

I don't know about you guys, but my "fans" don't give a crap.
lyosha
Jun. 1st, 2009 01:46 am (UTC)
If I ever call anyone who is kind enough to look at my art a 'fan', I hope someone slaps me. Hello arrogance! X)
thaily
Jun. 1st, 2009 06:36 am (UTC)
Oh pshaw, you have fans.

But trying to use them to peer pressure an artist into finishing your commission is L O L.
lyosha
Jun. 1st, 2009 11:57 am (UTC)
If so, I can safely say I've never, ever thought of them as such!

Agreed.
onesteptwo
Jun. 1st, 2009 02:02 am (UTC)
Especially when their furaffinity account seems to be nothing but commissions done for them?
neolucky
Jun. 1st, 2009 02:31 am (UTC)
This.

I'm not fans of either, and that phrase alone set me off and made me care much less about this post. What are they gonna do if it's not resolved? Sick their 'fans' on the artist in question?

Seriously.
jibacoil
Jun. 1st, 2009 04:18 am (UTC)
I pictured ceiling fans when I read that. :'c
megumi_kitten
Jun. 1st, 2009 04:51 pm (UTC)
Whirring in anger and RAAAGE! XD
phantomfoux
Jun. 5th, 2009 05:15 am (UTC)
xD
i got a giggle out of that.
purpule
Jun. 1st, 2009 12:32 am (UTC)
Now, I try and get my commissions done as timely as possible as they're always hanging over my head until I get them done, but is 2 months really that long of a wait to get this pissed off about it?

6 pages is a HUGE commission, or it would be to me, and it's daunting so of course a lot of people would procrastinate and put it off. I'd suspect that more than not giving a shit, personally.
onesteptwo
Jun. 1st, 2009 12:35 am (UTC)
Read again, hon. :3 It's 2008 that the commission was started. It's been a year and two months. I had to double check myself.
purpule
Jun. 1st, 2009 12:42 am (UTC)
OH
Yes, very much did NOT catch that!
Then yes, he's being an arse for not getting it done, that IS too long to wait
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megumi_kitten
Jun. 1st, 2009 04:54 pm (UTC)
I don't want to start commishes for the same reason (That and I am lazy, and it would be like homework to me, I have my own ideas clamouring to get out and all that jazz...) I also hate when people say "Oh it'll be no problem for you!/I KNOW you can do it!"...no, no you don't. And you saying I can is going to make me more paranoid I CAN'T. Ugh. I hate my mind.
theblackdragon
Jun. 1st, 2009 01:33 am (UTC)
literally spent hours upon hours starting and finishing a highly detailed picture when all that time could have very well been spent finishing what needs to be finished

nothing done other than meaningless OCs, UStreams, and hours wasted on video games

this post is nothing personal ( though I know you'll take it as such )

i think your frustration might be coloring your perception of your own post, because for something that's not supposed to be taken personally, you seem to be going out of your way to make it personal. :/

that said, here's hoping you guys manage to work things out. 's probably the longest 'one to two weeks' i've ever heard of, lol. ^^;
celestinaketzia
Jun. 1st, 2009 02:43 am (UTC)
At this point, I would suggest you bring your concerns to him in a calm manner. None of this calling his other activities meaningless or accusing him of not caring. Just be calm. Remind him of the time frame he quoted, and tell him, politely, that if he is no longer interested in the commission, then he can issue a partial refund. Not a full one, mind you, because he already completed the sketches.
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ccstudio
Jun. 2nd, 2009 01:11 am (UTC)
I second this. If I for whatever reason can not finish a commission I will offer a full refund, or make it up somehow. I only deal partial refunds if the commissioner themselves decides to cancel for their own reasons not relating to anything in my control. Ie if they change their mind half way through or realise they can't finish paying on a large detailed piece, or need the money back but the piece is half done... I keep a deposit equal to material costs and work put in.
growly
Jun. 1st, 2009 03:20 am (UTC)
Wow, even just the fact he was saying on the posts to FA that the commissions wouldn't get done any time soon is worrisome. How aggravating. >:[
celestinaketzia
Jun. 1st, 2009 04:17 am (UTC)
I think you're mistaking Kora (the OP) for the artist. The linked sketches were uploaded to Kora's account, and she's the one saying she doesn't think they'll get done.
growly
Jun. 1st, 2009 04:18 am (UTC)
Woops, yeah, that's what I thought was going on. I forget about commissions/giftart/whatever accounts.
koi_suru_usagi
Jun. 1st, 2009 04:23 am (UTC)
I have been through this too.
Waited for a year and a half for 12 pages of comic and the artist just never got around to finishing it. He instead kept uploading stuff he did for his friends and himself when I HAD PAID! He never paid me back the difference of what he owed me either...
Ugh so mad still!
Now I have to find someone else to commission and I'm out money...
lichdog
Jun. 1st, 2009 08:15 pm (UTC)
How many times have you attempted contact? Just to be sure.

It really is a waste, and judging by the style/skill of the artist, $20 a panel was underselling indeed. Not that its excusable, but maybe he felt that $120 for a 6 panel comic wasn't worth his time, which is HIS fault, because he should set a price that's fair to you both.
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