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Not all roo's are good roo's.

Ok, I'm not a person who like to hang out people in the public, but this looks like a serious place and after several years of patience I feel it's about time to do it.

The person I'm talking about is Kangarooboy (Kangaroo-boy at FurAffinity). I'm sure many of you have heard about him. He's a very talented artist and used to be one of my favorite ones. He also have his own website: http://www.kangarooboy.com/
We used to chatter now and then, and he seemed like a nice guy. He said he planned to get rid of a bunch of his sketchbooks and that I could buy them all if I wanted to for $400. (It would be easier to sell them to one person because of the shipping and such.)

I managed to dig up $400 (+ $10 extra for some american candy he could ship together with the sketchbooks). And that was that. First he had to gather all the sketchbooks, and that would take some time. Then they were in his sister's garage or something. Then they were in an unmarked cardboard box somewhere. He told me he felt bad because he hadn't shipped them, but I told him I could wait a little bit more because I trusted him.

The date I paid him the $410 was November 7th 2005, almost 4 years ago. For almost 4 years he's been promising to send me them, but I have received nothing. (I also donated $125 to him in August 2005 to be nice, I guess good deeds don't go unpunished.) Well, maybe I was naive and stupid. But I really trusted him, and he was awesome to talk with.

In the end I messaged him over at FurAffinity. I saw in the outbox that he had read all the messages I had sent him, but I didn't get any replies back. And I never used harsh words or immature behavior, because you won't get long with that. I also left a shout on his userpage, but that was quickly removed.

I look at myself as a guy with much patience, but there are limits. Now I'm only pissed off. Are there someone here who can help me in some way? Or come with some tips on how to deal with it? If it only was $10 then I wouldn't care much, but over $400 is like a slap in the face.

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the_draug
May. 20th, 2009 09:14 am (UTC)
I know I've waited too long. In the beginning he came with his promises and all, and I was stupid enough to believe him. Guess I had to learn the hard way.
millilicious
May. 20th, 2009 03:20 am (UTC)
Wow. I wish you the best of luck with that. That much time and money would've ticked me off a lot sooner than it did you
bladespark
May. 20th, 2009 03:26 am (UTC)
I think you can't do anything but just write it off. You were scammed. If he ever intended to give you the books in the first place he certainly doesn't now! It's not like he had to draw art here, he just had to find a set of books and stick them in a box. That should take a couple of days, tops.
spiffystuff
May. 20th, 2009 03:30 am (UTC)
Wow. I'm sorry you were taken for so much - posting here is a good start. Hopefully someone can give you some legal advice. Otherwise? Just make as big a stink about it as you can.
raven_rivers
May. 20th, 2009 05:54 am (UTC)
I really doubt there is any way you can get your money back if he isn't willing to give it to you himself. However, you can get the word out about him so that others won't make the same mistake. If he still takes commissions and you're able to hurt his business, then you can at least call it even based upon principle. Other than that, consider it a lesson learned.
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the_draug
May. 20th, 2009 09:18 am (UTC)
I have his full name and I know where he lives (thanks to Paypal). If I visit the US sometime I'm tempted to pay him a visit. Meet him face to face, where he can't hide or ignore me.
onesteptwo
May. 20th, 2009 10:54 am (UTC)
Do you think that after almost four years the information you have is still accurate though?
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onesteptwo
May. 20th, 2009 04:02 pm (UTC)
Um ... I'd be careful about just posting that out like that. I don't know if there's rules against it here, but I know some communities get pissy if you post someone's private information and you've got a phone number and rough address there.

Also, who is Techwolf? His alternate name or something?
ccstudio
May. 21st, 2009 12:37 am (UTC)
Domain info can be pulled up by anyone so long as he has a paid domain he owns. It's nothing anyone can't pull up just using his web site.
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byakko_tsuki
May. 21st, 2009 02:27 am (UTC)
This, I would not recommend. In AMERICA, people get arrested for this stunt.
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the_draug
May. 22nd, 2009 09:25 am (UTC)
Yes, that is what you think. But you have no insight in this case, and you are really misinterpreting what I said. The only bad thing I've done is to believe this hack, and the only thing I regret is being patient that long.
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thaily
May. 20th, 2009 07:24 am (UTC)
Goddamn, that's insane O_o
$535 down the drain :(
I'm sorry your generosity is wasted on this guy :/
otherotter
May. 20th, 2009 08:38 am (UTC)
Please keep in mind -- Not all of us suck.
Some of us get things done on time. ;_;
epiceternity
May. 20th, 2009 09:49 am (UTC)
It seems a little odd to put up for sale sketchbooks that aren't currently in the seller possession. It would seem that he thought he had them but turned out he couldn't find them/ were lost/ thrown out.

Certainly you should get a refund (I doubt you could enjoy something that took 4 years of stress to obtain) but you may have to go to the small claims court to get it.
loveyouenola
May. 20th, 2009 01:36 pm (UTC)
If it makes you feel any better, there's an unanswered post on his web-sites forum of someone demanding their money back from 2006.

So you're not the only one who's been duped.

You should edit this post with the contact details you have, so there is no misunderstanding or anyone thinks it's someone else.

Add a tag Artist:Kangarooboy
the_draug
May. 20th, 2009 06:41 pm (UTC)
I've changed some of the artist information, I hope I did it right. And I added a tag, I guess it will show up later? (It's been a while since I dabbled with the LJ.)

People who have no problem to just take money from others without delivering the goods have no shame. It just proves what kind of people they really are. That they don't even care they're name will be smudged with negativity.
kerstin_orion
May. 26th, 2009 03:40 am (UTC)
Only moderators can add/edit tags here. :) I'm just a little behind.
anjel_kitty
May. 20th, 2009 09:46 pm (UTC)
I'm sorry this happened to you. I wish you'd reported it sooner. IF anything I hope people who might be in this situation will not do business with this guy for one, and also know to report their issues sooner before this mich time has passed
the_draug
May. 20th, 2009 10:49 pm (UTC)
It wasn't until recently I found out this group existed (many thanks goes to lincard). The choice I had in the past was to post to different boards and on FA how he ripped me off, but that would only put me in a bad light. I know many fans are obsessive of their favorite artists, and if anyone say something negative about the artist, then they act like some sort of cannibal is trying to eat their firstborn. So, the truth would have gotten out, but with me as the "bad guy".
Better late then never. :p

It's people like him that makes me loose faith in mankind, egoism and a personality that simply screams "I don't give a fuck" have ruined so much.

Edited at 2009-05-20 10:50 pm (UTC)
minimalismo
May. 21st, 2009 01:58 am (UTC)
Whoo... that sucks...
darkburn02
May. 22nd, 2009 08:37 pm (UTC)
This is why you shouldn't give furries your money.
spiffystuff
May. 23rd, 2009 02:36 am (UTC)
Every. Furry. EVAR!
eonii
May. 24th, 2009 11:18 pm (UTC)
LOL problem solved, community dead XD
kudzinowski
May. 29th, 2009 03:24 am (UTC)
Best advice ever.
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