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As a "new" artist, what should i know?

First of all, i guess i should say hi to everybody =D The idea of a artist gathering place to discuss people that they've had good/bad transactions with is a great idea!

I've been doing art most of my life, and only just recently have i turned it towards furrydom (though i've been a fan of it for a few years, having no money and being somewhat shy have stopped me from putting my art out anywhere, or buying any art i've wanted >_< ). So... i've recently started putting pictures of my stuff online, and my friends and other people say "you should do commissions"

Well i've been thinking about it, but i've got a couple problems lol. For one, i'm a total idiot when it comes to credit cards/online transactions (i don't have a credit card or proof of age online lol). Secondly, my art isn't on drawn media, its clay sculpting figurines. Most of my figures come out 4-8" tall (minus wings/tails/etc) with a few rare ones up to a foot tall. I'm not a super good artist but appearantly i'm getting better quickly. I can also do limited (short) claymations (though i can't figure out how to add sound to them lol)

the major problem with this is, how do i show them a sample of what i'll be sending them without sending them an actual picture(though i'd be sending the finished fired item)... you can't exactly "sketch" colored sculpy ^_^* (and NO i can't paint lol) Because i'm seeing a problem with some commisions is that they get a sample, and that's enough for them, or something.

Any suggestions or hints or anything are greatly appreciated! Sorry for sounding so newbish.

Oh and i'm over on deviant art.. i'm *really* wanting to test the limits of my abilities before i go off doing real random commisions for money... so if you're bored, please go over there
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First of all, i guess i should say hi to everybody =D The idea of a artist gathering place to discuss people that they've had good/bad transactions with is a great idea!

I've been doing art most of my life, and only just recently have i turned it towards furrydom (though i've been a fan of it for a few years, having no money and being somewhat shy have stopped me from putting my art out anywhere, or buying any art i've wanted >_< ). So... i've recently started putting pictures of my stuff online, and my friends and other people say "you should do commissions"

Well i've been thinking about it, but i've got a couple problems lol. For one, i'm a total idiot when it comes to credit cards/online transactions (i don't have a credit card or proof of age online lol). Secondly, my art isn't on drawn media, its clay sculpting figurines. Most of my figures come out 4-8" tall (minus wings/tails/etc) with a few rare ones up to a foot tall. I'm not a super good artist but appearantly i'm getting better quickly. I can also do limited (short) claymations (though i can't figure out how to add sound to them lol)

the major problem with this is, how do i show them a sample of what i'll be sending them without sending them an actual picture(though i'd be sending the finished fired item)... you can't exactly "sketch" colored sculpy ^_^* (and NO i can't paint lol) Because i'm seeing a problem with some commisions is that they get a sample, and that's enough for them, or something.

Any suggestions or hints or anything are greatly appreciated! Sorry for sounding so newbish.

Oh and i'm over on deviant art.. i'm *really* wanting to test the limits of my abilities before i go off doing real random commisions for money... so if you're bored, please go over there <edit! thanks Limey for pointing out the address was wrong!> (http://kyubihunter.deviantart.com) and post a request (link a pictures even) with suggestions of what i can try. Thanks in advance! =D

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thaily
Sep. 3rd, 2003 01:07 am (UTC)
Have them pay up front, period.
kyubihntr
Sep. 3rd, 2003 02:14 am (UTC)
ahh.. yeah, i guess that's not a problem with my art.. i've never taken more than 3 hours on a figure.

Problem is, figures in sculpy can change in price by alot. like starting from scratch, i figure a 7" thing i make could cost anywhere from 6$ to 20$ from buying the clay, unless they've drastically changed the price of sculpy, i need to go look tommarow hehe. The more colors something has, the more expensive it'd be (obviously since i'd have to buy diff color packs, or if i'm lucky, combine two colors together)

Then again, i have no idea what i'd charge for something like this. You see little statues go for real cheap, and most pewter things about this size only go for 5-15$. I'd feel like i was overcharging if i went any higher, but then i'd end up losing money(and i'm poor enough as it is ^_^*) I'm still trying to do the preliminary thinking and whatnot before i actually get going.
limeykat
Sep. 3rd, 2003 05:00 am (UTC)
Ah.. the horror of all commissions! Trying to settle on a price.

1.) Figure out your base cost per each size sculpture.
(how much it costs YOU to make)
examples..: 5" for $5 or 10" for $10

2.)Add amount you wish to actually profit with.
(It's not a good idea to set up rough prices that may fluctuate during mid commission because you need more clay. You MUST be up front with costs, or there is a really good chance that you will not be taken seriously, and wont sell anything.)

3.)Decide how you are going about shipping costs.
(whether its included in your price, or you wish to charge sepperately for it)

You have to be clear, certain, and up front with rates. This doesnt mean you cant raise all pricing later on if you feel justified and fair in doing so however.

I agree with Thaily 100%. Payment accepted up front. If you are an HONEST seller, Your going to keep contact with these people anyway, with pics and updates as you go along. Which makes it easier really.
You suffer a chance of being ripped off if you show them the work before being paid. And in such cases its equally the fault of the artist for "being nice" and going ahead with work without compensation. A serious risk some artists are willing to make regardless. >.<

You can observe other sellers and how they conduct business to learn from and then create your own prices and policies. :D

Good luck! (link doesn't work for me though..)
kyubihntr
Sep. 3rd, 2003 08:31 am (UTC)
Ahhh.. good point, i was generally thinking along that line. The first time i make something i'd have to buy colors that i know i won't use up completely, so hopefully i could go between commissions without buying alot of new clay.

Then again i could buy like 4 "sample packs" (that have 24 colors) at somewhere around 80-100$ and end up with a nice ammount of everything.. then just buy colors as i use the samples up, lol.

But i'll *always* do my own "safe" way of something. I'm not gonna go out and buy all the clay and make it out of sculpy immediately, heck no, hehe. I have tons of oil-based clay with just about every color imaginable. I can whip up a "rough draft" and take pictures of them, and if that's what the person wants, i can make the real deal outta sculpy.

d'oh good point about the link not working!

http://kyubihunter.deviantart.com (forgot i spelled out kyubi hunter, lol) i'll edit my original entry if i can ^_^
thaily
Sep. 3rd, 2003 10:30 am (UTC)
Aaah, another Jack fan! ;D
kyubihntr
Sep. 3rd, 2003 12:46 pm (UTC)
wow, i though replied to this. guess it didn't go through first time ^_^* but yeah, you almost say that like its a bad thing, lol. Though i gotta thank him, it really got me re-interested in my art after reading the whole comic (over a three-evening span). This is my last semester of college, so the thought of maybe having some extra income on the side might help too ^_^;
thrivis
Sep. 3rd, 2003 01:41 pm (UTC)
*poke*

just wanted to say some stuff. ^^

Limey: even though i'm not sculpting per se, i'm a new to the selling aspect. and... what you posted here I thought was really helpful. thank you so much, even though the help and guidelines were not directed at me. ^^

kyubi: To tack on my own bit too... you might want to check out if a person commissioning you has commissioned others... My first commission when I was young and stupid(and last commission thus far n_n I'm still young and stupid...) the guy had a bit of a reputation, and it proved to resurface in my case too... And I've seen artists get scammed in pretty strange ways. What limey said though probably could have prevented a lot of what I've seen and some things that happened during that first commission... Live and learn though I guess. ^^ If put to now, I could handle things better than I did then. ^^

Babble from a fellow newbie... ^^; Good luck though. :3
arphalia
Sep. 3rd, 2003 03:26 pm (UTC)
Payment methods.
I didn't see anyone put in suggestions about this yet, so I'm gonna poke in and give a few ideas.

Have you ever heard of PayPal? Even if you don't have a credit card yet, you might want to look into this. I have an account and don't have a 'credit card' persay, but I -do- have a check card (atm card) with a VISA logo on it, which means in theory its a credit card. A lot of banks are doing this for their customers these days, so if you've got a checking account and have an ATM card, look to see if it has some sort of credit card logo on it and if so, it should be fine to use for getting an account with PayPal. Believe me, I was hesitant to get an account, but anymore now, I prefer it over all other forms of payment from commissioners. For one, its fast, and more importantly, you know the money is there. Also takes away the risk of checks and money orders getting lost in the mail, something both artists and commissioners worry about.

Hehe, and if ya get a paypal account, tell 'em arphie(at)cfl(dot)rr(dot)com sent ya. Cause if ya do, I get $5 for nothin'! ^.-

Seriously though, its a good method of payment and a lot of people are getting on the ball and getting one of these. It might take a bit of time to set up, but I think its well worth it.
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