September 3rd, 2011

advice seeking post

Collapse )

What: Traditional art
Where/When: AC '11

I took a large commission (for me, anyway) at AC. After a move - during which my customer was traveling, and assured me that it was fine that I was sorting the house first - I began work on the commission without much ado. I turned in progress shots and they seemed very enthused about the progress. I was also! It looks pretty awesome. I think it'll be one of the better things I've drawn! We're both excited, cool! I've been making adjustments at the suggestion of the customer at each stage that they were made. Getting to the final refining stage has taken a while, as even after I had set to work my customer continued to have long periods of non communication, something I had been advised of, but also assured that communication would become more regular, which it has yet to much degree. I refine, and tighten, and finally come to a time where it can be scanned for final sketch approval. It's all completely ready for color except a very small section (delay between a question I asked the customer and the day when my bf took it to be scanned - I do not own a scanner, just for the record.). The communication had been semi-regular for a little while(a few emails worth), but then another quiet after I sent it. I did not think much, they seem as if they were quite busy, and while it itched at the artisty bit of me, the person bits and business sense in me knows folks got a life! So it's cool. Then! I get an email back saying they had deliberated 'for a while' and decided that they wanted some rather major changes, in addition to some adjustments I consider "regular". The regular adjustments I honestly don't care at all about, unless someone was super ridiculous I have no problem tweaking things - I had informed them that really excessive changes or later stage major changes may need to be charged a later fee, at the time of commission. Unfortunately, this was verbal. (I think I will have a form to sign next year - you can do that, right?). The "major" change comes in wanting to change the character's legs from plantigrade to digitigrade, which is a large task since there are 5 figures in total that would need this adjustment. In addition, two other items were dismissed - one that I had been given artistic liberty on, and one from a prompt - and I was suggested to draw just one, whole new item. This will disturb the symmetry and look of the current set up of images, which means I may need to adjust other things so it doesn't look all wonky.

I emailed them and said plainly that the minor adjustments were a-okay but that the larger ones would need to cost money. What I did not say (I think it would sound rude? But maybe it would be informative. I didn't say it, in any case.) is if this had been said at the very beginning when the first figures were roughed out, or even before the rest of them were added, I probably would have done it as part of 'regular' adjustments, but when it is ready to have color down and there are changes like bone/body structure I just can't let my time go so easily. I have yet to hear back, and I am anxious that this is another deliberation and I don't even know what I might hear.

It's been so pleasant so far, I enjoy the project, but I am concerned that perhaps this might be heading into some, erm, "weird" territory? I am not saying I am getting scammed, but well, it's making me anxious enough that I wanted to post and get feed back on my situation. If you have any questions, please ask them, I may have forgotten to include something or worded something oddly.
  • grygon

Update: skullgrrl

I had hoped that this next weekend I would post a "resolved" post but when I got home from my aunt's funeral tonight I found this message in my inbox:

She refers to a bad-dealings thread on where the only new message I had posted in reply since posting here and getting to see this dispute nearly resolved was a link to her artists-beware post, pointing out how she had reacted to it. That was going to be my last post concerning her, plus the resolution post when I did get my plush. It seems the post was removed, and I have a few PMs on those forums urging me to post my warning again as my own warning, and not Bob's (I had only been replying to his post about his bad dealings with her to share my own).

Then I found this beauty:
(eta: gender slurs and threats of physical violence in link)
the top thread is from her fanpage on facebook and the very bottom of that image is from At the top she mentions giving me a day or so, and in her facebook PM the only thing she asks for is me removing my posts.

The images explain themselves, I think, but as I suspect from my first post on her:
her local fans are up in arms.

I am unsure what to do at this point. Thoughts?

ETA: Rereading that thread, I do want to clarify the "stay at home artist with no kids" comment that gets mentioned about the other forum as it seems to be lost on some critics: I meant that she was just a stay at home artist, and could not use kids as a valid reason for not working as that would be an understandable reason to me.

ETA2: Re: "wasn't allowed in skullgrrl's group" message below (frozen by mods, due to insults), I was a member and left of my own freewill for personal reasons and then got harassed for it:

ETA3: so after being temp-banned here for her behavior, she posts this:
She makes some untrue statements in the comments as well as the main post, though that should be obvious to everyone by now. If there is a comment or statement she made that you want my side to just let me know. She does mention that I apologized to her here in the comments for some reason but I did not do that, at all, as can be seen.

ETA4: she deleted that post on furhideandbone. It got to around 40 comments (that I have saved via email if they're needed for whatever reason), mostly of people telling her to cool off. She deleted it and reposted this:
So here is a screen cap of the "witch hunt" she deleted from there:

ETA5: I'm in the coffee shop now with nyaro and have picked up the plushie. Plushie-wise, this issue is resolved now. I'm in love all over again, it's like when I first got Babette who is my favorite ever.