January 4th, 2011

  • eskyes

Advice for Comissioners and Artists both?

So this is my first time doing this thing. Posting on a LJ that is (as well as openly stepping in to the furry fandom), so pardon my lack of knowing how to do anything. I've lurked for a while and while I've been watching the offline professional art world for a while, I've never really looked in to the world of commissions. Reading these pages have sent shivers down my spine and are making me reluctant to do so. However looking through some various stuff, I've noticed something in these commissions that I've seen lacking compared to most offline commissioners, at least in the sense of portrait and landscape painters.


That. Primarily considering property rights and intellectual property rights. Looking through all of the old emails and all of that kind of thing displayed on this site, I have not once seen any form of this. I just figured of all the places to throw this out there so that it might be of some good, this might be the best. I've seen a lot of stuff where there are definite blurs between where a copyright starts and where it ends, so why not write it out? A simple version would be:

The character(s) represented within this piece are intellectual property of _________ and the title of ownership for said piece, upon full completion of payment, is transferred from __________ to ___________.

Pretty much states, legally as soon as a signature is placed, that the characters represented within the drawing belong to someone, so regardless of whether or not you own the drawing, you might or might not own the right to use the character, but also states clearly that the drawing/illustration itself is property of the one who is buying it. That means they can do with it as they wish.

Stops the abuse of the art piece outside of its decided purpose, but at the same time gives ownership of what was paid for. And if they want to paint a mustache on their nice new piece of property, they can. You do not have copyright over what is drawn, but you do have ownership over the physical drawing. The TOS of commissioners rarely seems to cover such stuff and are, from what I can tell, only thinly legally binding at best.

But I figured I would throw this out there. And again, apologize for doing anything wrong, lord knows I probably did.


Okay, obviously, this is being misconstrued.

No, I do not mean that all artists should copy paste this in to their TOS. As I have been informed, the wording is horribly off and shouldn't really be used and all that wonderful stuff.

The main point of this was for people to at least be aware of certain aspects of ownership that might or might not be included in TOSs, something found in almost all offline art commissions. So, forget that I wrote anything about the entire transferrance thing at least be willing to talk to an artist as to the rights involved with a piece.

This isn't levying blame at one party, it's the responsibility of both to understand it and acknowledge that it is something that exists. I just meant that artists might want to think about adding something like this to their TOS and that commissioners should be on the look out for them just to understand what they are buying.

Nothing more.

Again, the example was not : "I think you should all add this."

It was simply : "Hey, something like this might be useful." Of course, with more actually looking in to what is accurate and possible to use.

Akeyla issues

I commissioned Akeyla at eurofurence last year [early september]

I gave her a reference sheet of my character [original image, not a print] I didn't have any prints, as I wasn't planning on getting art of the character originaly

I had to leave earlier than expected from EF and thus couldn't collect the art from her

I messaged her after I had gotten home and settled back down, and recieved a reply stating that she would send it out ASAP

I was never given a scan, or even a photo of the image, and it has not yet arrived, same with my reference sheet, which she acknowledged that she has... I messaged her again on FA, soon after she made a journal saying that she would be leaving, and she deleted most of her art from he page, I asked around and found her DA page and noted again, yet I have not recieved a reply.... she has posted things since I noted, which was 3 weeks ago, this is the note I sent:

'hey there, this is shadowsani from FA... i haven't recieved the artwork yet [female kitsune sketch] or my reference sheet back, have you sent them yet? and if so, do you have any proof that you did?'

I was wondering if anyone around was in good contact with akeyla so I could get my art and reference sheet back? I don't actualy have that reference sheet scanned, and I would like it back for future reference of the character :(

her DA is: http://akeyla.deviantart.com/ and FA is http://www.furaffinity.net/user/akeyla

EDIT: contact regained, thankyou!

EDIT2: contact lost again, item still not recieved :(