September 27th, 2007

ilu kes

Art theft related

Just so everyone does know, and I have come to an agreement, they have not yet changed their ToS but apparently are in the process of it.
It has come to my understanding that Underdog feels I can't not revoke my freebies on Wolfhome. Because of the terms and usage agreements. Here, if you've never read them before I'll quote them. :)

" Some of the artwork and other creative material on has been created and submitted by users like you. The responsible artist keeps the copyright on submitted pieces but grants us the right to use it without restriction and without compensation, financial or otherwise. When you submit artwork or other creative material it to wunderwood LLC, you grant us license to use it however we choose. This includes but is not limited to use on other "non-chat" web pages such as splash screens or logos. It also includes use in advertising, whether electronic, print or otherwise, as well as use in merchandise for sale either directly on or through a third party such as,, or other outlet. The use of submitted artwork by wunderwood LLC, whether on the Wolfhome site or elsewhere, does not obligate wunderwood LLC to pay you or anyone else royalties or any other fees at any time."

Now, I have read this over and over again, and I do not see how other people uploading my artwork to their site, is me submitting my art to ? 

"When you submit artwork or other creative material it to wunderwood LLC, you grant us license to use it however we choose."
I have never uploaded any freebies to Wolfhome, so they can not say it's their property because I uploaded it to my pose list. Since I never did, never liked my freebies enough x3. Anyhow, I would understand if I filled out a contract or agreement involving my freebies in specific, then yes Underdog would completely have a point. However, to my knowledge I've never done any such thing. So, if I never gave any copyrights away to Wunderwood LLC then by Underdogs logic, he is saying if I go to a website where users have uploaded massive amounts of my art and I ask the administration to remove it, I'm out of luck? As far as I've been aware, and many other artists, that just doesn't work. Lol, sorry!  If I post my artwork and do not specify if it's allowed upon Wolfhome or not, it isn't anyone's place to just assume they can be used anywhere. My freebies are still my property and I do still retain complete copyrights.  Photography listed as "stock" still remains copyrighted to it's original owner. Which means, it can not be used for commercial use. However, since Wolfhome is a pay-for-membership site, they are using my art for commercial use. People are paying Wunderwood LLC to use my artwork, which they do not have permission to use.  There was no contract between myself and Wunderwood LLC regarding my art work.  The fault lies with the users and administration. I can not recall ever stating that my artwork was ever at any point free for use by or by Wunderwood LLC.

Many sites have been shut down by their ISP because the sites had art uploaded they didn't have permission to upload. Now I don't want to sound threatening. All I did was ask for Wolfhome to remove my freebies from their site as soon as they could. I wasn't demanding them to remove it in one day, or a few hours, or within some other ridiculous time period.  However, being the SOLE owner of the art I have a legitimate complaint that I could bring forth.  Thats over 100 pieces uploaded by at least over 100 users. I believe Wolfhomes user base is currently at 900 or so? So who knows how many times my art has been reposted. Thats a lot of copyrighted material upload, which is a very strong argument in it's own. Not to add that they are making money off of it, if not traffic.

Here is a link to my list of poses/freebies:

In addition to that, I would like to warn any artist out there. If Wundwood LLC does infact refuse to take down my art. They are in fact supporting my assumption about the owner believing that  ANY art uploaded to their site becomes property of Wundwood LLC. They may use your art in any form they want.  No where did I agree to the stipulations, nor were they posted in a conveniently viewed area where every artist submitting KNOWS what they're getting into.  Which means, if your art is stolen and uploaded there? If they want to slap it on a t-shirt and sell it for $40, it is perfectly "OK".
I would highly recommend  any art making sure they're work is not being used there.
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