April 19th, 2007

PG, Phantom, Phantomgraph

Questions on the unwritten rules.

'Ello all!

I have been watching the horror stories unfold here as of late and have been truly shuddering at the stuff folks have been dealing with so I've deciding to ask some questions to help give me a clue by four right on top my head. If their is a web site that answers all or some of these things please hit me with it!

I'm a doodler artist that's taken it upon himself to offer and make some logos for a couple of friends. So far I haven't had any troubles with the folks I'm doing these works for but after reading some of the history here I got to wondering some things...

As of yet I haven't ever asked for or accepted any payment at all for my work, but I do believe that 'freebies' and gift art should be treated just as seriously as paid commissioned art. I guess I'm of the mind set that 'I said I'll do it', and it doesn't matter if some one is paying me to do something else (which I said I would also do) First come first serve, in order and by my word. Is this a wrong way of thinking, or just me being naive?

Again, partially because I'm new at this, and partially because I don't want anyone feel they need to post here about me.. I would like to know if there is any kind of general guidelines for both artists and for clients.

Right now I've been posting updates to my LJ and pointing my 'clients' to it over IM or e-mail (whatever works for the client) I feel this is important, even thou it is a freebie. I want to let folks know I'm working on the work I said I would do and let others know and see what I can do. I update the client and the LJ for at least each time per day I spend on their art. Is this too much for freebies.. and how about paid commissions?

What sort of time frame do most clients expect for artwork to be completed? I feel kinda bad cause I'm learning as I go with 3D and some projects take much more than a month. (I also work full time.)

What about personal projects? I've heard some folks complain that this artist is working on such and such for his/her friends and so on while their commission remains incomplete. I know this happens to artists, or at least me, as I get inspired with an idea and I have to put it to use. I do feel that this should be understood, but their is a point. What's a fair point?

I know that this is a lot of questions and I know the answers are subjective, but I'm looking for opinions from both clients and artists so I can make up some form of rule book in my head to follow both for now and if I ever decide to open myself for paid commissions.

Thanks to everyone ahead of time for your input!

'May all our good wishes and fine dreams come true.' - Adapted from Mike Jittlov
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Warning to Artist - Art Theft site.

I hope this is alright to post here - if not, I humbly apologize in advance.

WARNING! Site contains adult images - please do not click the link if you're under the legal age of consent to view such content.


I had been directed to this site when someone informed me some of my artwork was being redistributed there (I'm the sort who has no problem with people posting my artwork elsewhere online - so long as consent was sought for first - in which in this case, it hadn't been).

I found some of my own pieces there (some furry, some fanarts), but recognized a number of other (furry) artists as well (such as Max Black Rabbit, Terry Smith, Malachi, to name a few).

Now, I'm not sure if they had given consent to have their artwork posted on the site, but contacted a few of them to be safe. Though I recognize other artists there, I have no idea how to contact them.

If anyone recognizes some of these other artists, please drop them a line and inform them of the site to play it safe. I'm not sure how the other artists feel abut their work being redistributed, but speaking for myself, I'm not a fan of having my works reposted (especially when the pieces have a disclaimer on them stating as such).

a stupid question about legitmate things

I am asking if this community has a 'sister community' where artists can ensure weird emails they get are from legtimate sources.

once myself and some others got emails for some fantasy website or magazeen saying they would like our art in it. This is the purpose of this topic, for seeing if some of these things are real and honest and not having any malintent.

I just got an email from omma@omma.us, with the topic message being "Include your art in the Art Book "International Contemporary Masters 200", so is this some kind of con or some thing safe? here is some copypasted content. Is this just an advertising?

"a global art book edited and published by Omma Center of Contemporary Art. www.omma.us

Artists should apply by sending at least 5 JPG images by email or their website address.
If the artist is selected, will be notified within 5 working days.
Place and availability in the book are subject to quality. All submissions are subject to acceptance."

the selection

Submit free for selection. Our art committee will review all submissions and make decisions on acceptance.

After notification of acceptance an inclusion fee is required.


The participation fee in $ USD might change according to daily rates. Please visit http://www.xe.com/ucc/ to convert currency

The page of each artist will contain the image of an artwork, a short biography, the website URL and contact information of the artist.

A. For one page 350.00 Euros or US $ 467.00

B. For two pages the cost is 550.00 Euros or $ 735.00 USD.

C. For four pages the cost is 900 Euros or $ 1,200.00 USD

D. For five pages 1,100 Euros or $1,470.00 USD

The artists will receive one free copy of the catalogue."

If they want to buy extra catalogues, they will get a 20% discount, unless
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