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Starfinder update, part 2

Starfinder contacted me today and refunded my money. Thus, I've removed the post I made last night pertaining to her.

Edit:

I really should not have to explain myself for removing my OWN posts, but apparently I do. I wanted to just leave it where it was but now I'm being called names for it, so here:

Starfinder messaged me yesterday afternoon and said "If you remove the post I'll give you a refund." I asked why she wouldn't just give me the picture she said was done, and she said she didn't know what DVD it was saved on.

I said, okay, fine. She refunded me through PayPal and I said I'd remove the post. Then, I asked her what she'd do if I didn't remove the post, and she said she'd reverse the PayPal transaction. I argued with her over how moral that was, when she owed me the money anyway. We both got angry, she said she wouldn't actually do that, but she was under stress from finals etc etc and was losing legitimate business from "pay-on-delivery" customers because of posts like that and people harassing her customers and this and that.

So I figured, taking down the post was a small sacrifice to make in order to make sure she didn't decide to take the money back she owed me, and perhaps a little because I felt the situation was over, done, and closed. I would have liked to leave it up too, but I really don't want to risk losing the money again because she changed her mind.

Second edit:

Wow, this shit just doesn't stop. People bitching at me for accepting Starfinder's blackmail into getting my money back, and now Starfinder messaging me to bitch at me and calling me a liar for explaining why I removed the post. This situation is fucking ridiculous. I make a post, get my money back, get flak from people here for how I handle MY OWN FUCKING FINANCES and then I get flak from her for DEFENDING myself.

So now Starfinder is bitching at me that she overdrew her account to repay me to get me to take down the post. Guess what?

So here we go again.

Quick backstory: I commissioned Starfinder in May of 2007 by buying her batteries for her wireless tablet. Don't ask me what brand it is, it's been established that it was for real and legitimate. She couldn't do art without it and I wanted a picture, so it seemed like a good trade at the time. The cost was $40 plus tax and shipping to CA.

Anyway, this was a year ago, obviously. I've not even seen a sketch of what I asked for at this point, which is really not surprising considering who we're talking about (and hindsight being 20/20). What is infurating about Starfinder is all the empty promises and false hopes she makes.

Let me demonstrate:

About a month later on 7/2, she asked me for some detail on the character, and said she'd have a sketch of him by the 4th and a full color the following weekend. That was AC weekend and I would be out of town, so I figured when I got back from the con, I'd get to see a sketch at least.

It wasn't done by 7/10, and she said she was moving. Okay, fair enough. A couple weeks, she said, and she'd have some time.

By 7/20 she said she had a sketch done... And that she'd email it. I gave her my address, and it never showed up. On 7/22 I politely asked if she had sent it, thinking maybe it got lost in the web. She said she hadn't sent it yet.

By 9/23, I still hadn't gotten anything from her and was unable to contact her before then. She was having family issues at this time.

On 10/19 we spoke again, still nothing got sent.

Between then and the next time we spoke, I sent her a couple emails, and left a comment in her LJ, Nothing was replied to. The next exchange took place on 12/3, where I finally got to talk to her but as with most other times I got in touch with her, there was something eating up her time with furry drama.

On 12/18 I got ahold of her again, when she was *again* dealing with drama (for some reason she won't respond unless she's dealing with drama) and I asked about the picture, She said it was backed up on DVD in flat colors and wanted my references, again.

On 1/17 she was busy with FC preparations.

On 2/26, she said she had a new email address, which may have explained why my emails for the last month went unanswered, but not the earlier ones. Okay, this time she was dealing with a "douchebag from hell" apparently. At this time she was apparently finished with the pic, which made me scratch my head a bit, as I'd never gotten to see a sketch or hash out any changes that needed to be made. But hey, I figured, she's done with it, at least. She was going to post it to her art LJ within a couple of days.

Well, it never got posted, and we didn't speak again until sometime in April (I don't have the log as it was through my mobile). I told her I sent her a couple of emails, which she claims she never got. I asked her to please just email me the picture, gave her my address, and she said she was "going on a trip" and would try to do it before she left.

Of course, no. And in the meantime of telling me my picture was ready to be uploaded back in February, she's posted digital artwork for people to her art LJ, but not my picture.

Well, she's back from her trip, selling a camera and making LJ posts so I figured maybe she'd be reachable now. Email, nope. LJ comments, nope. And I haven't seen her on AIM since the last time I spoke to her.

The moral of the story? Don't spend money on this girl, and don't believe a word that comes out of her mouth. There's absolutely no excuse for this when she claims it's been done since late February and all she has to do is UPLOAD the damn thing.

Of course I'll believe that when I see it, which is likely to be never.


Since there's apparently no graceful way out of this situation without pissing SOMEONE off, I give up. I'll let you know if she reverses the transaction.

And thanks for all your support. Or lack thereof.
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immortalpanda
May. 31st, 2008 04:52 am (UTC)
woah you actually got a refund?
colonelinfrared
May. 31st, 2008 05:11 am (UTC)
Hah. One of the lucky ones, I see.
foxhack
May. 31st, 2008 05:13 am (UTC)
Maybe it's just me, but I would've left the post up with a note at the end. *shrugs*
kappyjeanne
May. 31st, 2008 05:22 am (UTC)
I second this, I'd like to at least know whats going on as I missed the initial post.
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leahtaur
May. 31st, 2008 05:39 am (UTC)
I wondered where that post went. o_o It's nice that you got a happy ending.
nauta
Jun. 1st, 2008 01:46 am (UTC)
I got my money but I'm not happy with how this has played out
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thaily
May. 31st, 2008 05:41 am (UTC)
That's dumb, you should have left it up and just amended the post to state she paid you back. But in the meantime you STILL had to wait, what, 2 years during which she continuously lied to you. It's still obvious that no-one should do business with her.
Also you killed like 75 comments by people from this comm, next time you post people will just be less inclined to share what they know with you because they know you're going to kill their comments anyway.
digivolution
May. 31st, 2008 05:54 am (UTC)
Yes, this.
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tsunami_ryuu
May. 31st, 2008 05:45 am (UTC)
There ought to be a rule about leaving posts up and amending them with notes if the situation gets resolved. Like Thaily said, leaving your post up would have been worthwhile for all the reasons she outlined.

Did Starfinder ask you to remove the post or was it your own choice?
nauta
May. 31st, 2008 01:43 pm (UTC)
She asked me to remove it.
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thornwolf
May. 31st, 2008 05:45 am (UTC)
good news :) told ya there was no drawing.
thrivis
May. 31st, 2008 06:34 am (UTC)
I think you should have left the original post up too. To show BOTH how she had behaved before along with how she is making amends.

If she's making things up to folks and they delete the posts, how many posts are we now missing on her in this community's archives? How many others have gotten refunds/amends that we can't go back and look at what happened to get to that point for each client?
nauta
May. 31st, 2008 03:20 pm (UTC)
See my explanation.
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anjel_kitty
May. 31st, 2008 07:57 am (UTC)
So the lesson learned here: If starfinder rips you off make sure to make a post on it here and let it amass tons of comments and drama so that it will then be worthy of her notice. This of course does not guarantee you getting your money back but apparently it does make it slight more likely.
wolf_goat
May. 31st, 2008 10:41 am (UTC)
Was the only way I got a print from her after 2 years.
xodiac
May. 31st, 2008 08:16 am (UTC)
Personally I think the only person who should be allowed to remove posts from here is the moderator. These gripes are legitimate, and even after they get settled the person had a hard enough time to think it was worthy of posting.
theblackdragon
May. 31st, 2008 02:31 pm (UTC)
It is bullshit for her to have put you through all of this, both before over the commission and now with this delete-your-post-about-me-or-no-refund crap. At least with the edit, her antics over people posting about her here are documented, so thank you for that.
nauta
May. 31st, 2008 02:41 pm (UTC)
Well I also told her I wouldn't make any posts about what happened regarding the refund, but if I have to in order to cover my own ass, I will.
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riverdance
May. 31st, 2008 02:52 pm (UTC)
I've heard so many complaints about starfinder over the years that frankly, I'm surprised she still has 'customers'!!!

I can see your reasons for removing the posts but truthfully this is her own bed that she's been constructing over the years and now that she has to lie in it she's 'under stress', people 'harrassing her customers' (what type of harrassing, I wonder. Y'mean people are warning others not to do business with her if they want to get something for thier money??) and the usual other excuses. So she's falling back on that old line of blaming others for her incompetence.

The more people that realize what sort of 'artist' she is, the better, I say.
nauta
May. 31st, 2008 03:01 pm (UTC)
She said she's doing everything "pay upon completion" now so I guess that means nobody can get burned, but people are still warning others off of her or something. *shrugs*
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fix_the_spade
May. 31st, 2008 03:58 pm (UTC)
Putting my sneaky hat on for a minute.

You should have screened the post for 3 months so no-one could see it. Then re instated it after the paypal buyer dispute timed out.

Not a very nice thing to do but the victim seems deserving.
nauta
Jun. 1st, 2008 12:09 am (UTC)
Community posts can't be screened. And in three months, I doubt I'd care enough to bring it up again.
acrimonius
May. 31st, 2008 04:29 pm (UTC)
Wow. She blackmailed you. I would've taken the cash loss and posted the logfile instead.
yelth
May. 31st, 2008 05:50 pm (UTC)
Ditto.
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wishingponastar
May. 31st, 2008 06:36 pm (UTC)
I think she can put a blocker on her e-mail in paypal, or contact support and do it via the phone. They'd do anything for their customers.
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