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Starfinder Commission?

     So, it seems that Starfinder is back and offering a commission auction here: http://www.furbuy.com/auctions/1003634.html

     My question is, in light of all of the massive controversy of the past and the fact that it's been quite some time since all of that... Does anyone know if it's safe to commission her these days? Has anyone had any recent experience (within the last year) with commissioning her? I'm really, really tempted to bid on this auction, but because of all the prior complaints about her failure to deliver here, I'm thinking twice...

     Any feedback/advice would be appreciated. Thanks! =)
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silveryote
Mar. 10th, 2008 04:10 am (UTC)
From what I observed recently on FA...she took LJ icon commissions a while back..about 20+ or so..and I saw only, about, 5..maybe get completed? This was MONTHS ago and she probably didn't finish or touch the others at all.
zoom_gas
Mar. 10th, 2008 04:16 am (UTC)
Yeah, I commissioned her back then for one. And then I found out about her track record.
Luckily I didn't pay for it...so, whatever.
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fiercereaper
Mar. 10th, 2008 04:45 am (UTC)
Just an FYI, the art_theft post is protected, so a lot of people can't see it.
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dinogrrl
Mar. 10th, 2008 04:41 am (UTC)
Honestly...you'd be better off commissioning someone with a better completion/delivery track record than her who doesn't trace heavily reference their pictures, from what I understand.
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gas_mask_dragon
Mar. 10th, 2008 05:01 am (UTC)
Hmm.. I think that the using the exact same details n such for her icons is a little lame if it's true...

But none the less. I'd love to commission something from her, that DOESN'T just require a look up in google images. I'd commission her for a more unique idea. Like a certain moment or scene or pose or something like that.
anjel_kitty
Mar. 10th, 2008 07:03 am (UTC)
I would never give money to this girl. She got into the furry art business way too young and immature to handle the sort of demand there would be for her work. I think she does have real talent and ability, she just takes a lot of short cuts sometimes with her art that she doesn't think other's will notice, and that is exactly what happens.
bloodhoundomega
Mar. 10th, 2008 08:26 am (UTC)
It's really sad to see people fall you once looked up to. Damn... even if she's skilled... that evidence here is oppressing... I could do that, too... >_<

You really shouldn't waste your on money on that person. I know it's not the same, because no money was involved, but back in 2003 and before she used to rip off people with trades as well. Someone I know as well as I never got our half of the trade back and it was the same "lost stuff got computer hacked" song and such she sings when commissioners contact her.

I never stumbled upon a person who was so consequent and darn good at plainly _ignoring_ emails and mesages of any kind. >_>'
melloyellowduck
Mar. 10th, 2008 08:44 am (UTC)
Yeah... My friend commissioned her for a ref sheet and it took her ten months to get it done, and she got his character completely wrong. I also have three friends who commissioned badges from her at FC '06 and just got them at FC '07 and she got one of their characters really wrong.

Shes got nice art, but I'd say its too big of a risk.
dreamaria
Mar. 10th, 2008 10:36 am (UTC)
Personally, I'd advise against it...

I don't have any problems with her personally at all. I've even hung out with her at FC a few times. She seems to do a lot of badges at cons, though I could be wrong. I've heard of lots of people paying and not receiving.

I'd personally not commission her. Her work looks very impressive at first, but once you start seeing the references (without credit) it starts losing its...prestige? I can't think of a better word right now.

Also kind of interesting how she constantly has time to draw things for her boyfriend/herself and hardly ever posts commissions, besides the badges. :/
darkyo
Mar. 10th, 2008 10:47 am (UTC)
Wow.. I never knew she had such a bad track record. I watch her on FA for the art, which I always thought was good, but I guess this sort of thing never surfaces there anyway.

Oh well, it's not like I buy art so I don't care. :P
thaily
Mar. 10th, 2008 10:48 am (UTC)
On a silly note.
What I WILL NOT Draw: -Anything that is offensive to any race, gender, or group of people

I can't think of anything that's not offensive to someone. :P
jurann
Mar. 10th, 2008 07:09 pm (UTC)
Re: On a silly note.
lol - Maybe that's how she justifies not completing anyone's work? ;D
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tanidareal
Mar. 10th, 2008 11:06 am (UTC)
I personally didn't have any experience with her. But a good friend of mine did. He commissioned her years ago, already payed years ago... and waited.

Finally, after x years, she managed to do a... picture for him. Same as have been told here before, the picture looked 100% like a photo, as she also posted the "reference" photo (and we are very sure that she just edited it with some Photoshop filters).

If I remember right (I just heard it - I do not claim this is really true), her argument was something like - her drawing skills have that much improved over the years since he commissioned her (what is of course true), so if he would commission her NOW for a pic like that, he'd pay xxxx more (in other words - be thankful that she did not ask for more money).

I was very disappointed about that for my friend...

Also her personal hate against those "furry bastards" (quote) would be a reason why I NEVER would give her any money for art, no matter how beautiful it is. I like artwork that is done with feelings and respect, and not from a person who sees Furries as weird idiots, but as long as they pay money, it's OK.
jurann
Mar. 10th, 2008 07:08 pm (UTC)
Sadly I've seen a lot of quality artists with attitudes like this towards furries lately. I guess they confide their feelings about furries in me privately because I buy their work and occasionally chat with them, but man that leaves a sour taste in your mouth when someone drops the whole "I'm only doing furry art for the money" bomb... I'm not sure that a lot of these artists have any common sense when it comes to PR and image, but so many of them shoot themselves in the foot by saying stupid things and reacting poorly to "furry drama". =/
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nauta
Mar. 10th, 2008 11:21 am (UTC)
I commissioned her back in May of 2007 and have yet to see anything, a sketch, a finished product, anything. Lately she's said my commission is finished and she'll "post it in a couple days" (to her art journal), but that was two weeks ago and still, nothing.

The sad thing is that I paid for the commission by buying her a new battery for her dead Wacom tablet pen (it was over $40), so all the digital art she's done since then has effectively been on my dime while I've gotten nothing out of it.

Just my experience on the matter.
thaily
Mar. 10th, 2008 11:25 am (UTC)
Uhm.

Wacom doesn't use batteries in their pens.
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wolf_goat
Mar. 10th, 2008 11:43 am (UTC)
Would never commission her for anything. There's the risk of not getting it, getting it wrong or just getting a tracing.
rileycostello
Mar. 10th, 2008 12:35 pm (UTC)
The girl has skills, but like murasadramon mentioned, she's wasting them. You can tell she has some sort of grasp and skill mastery when you see her sketches of her boyfriend that she'll do- she can do expressions well, even quick sketching...

unless those are pictures, too.

With digital cameras being so prevalent nowadays it wouldn't surprise me if they were also pictures.

I could do that too, but even if I did I couldn't make them look that good. I'm still in awe of the skills she -does- have, even if she uses them for nefarious purposes. XD It's a shame that she hasn't worked harder at maintaining her reputation.

I still wouldn't commission her, just based on the experiences of others. PR is a very important tool these days and thankfully, the Internet has these things available for reference.
dazen_cobalt
Mar. 10th, 2008 03:03 pm (UTC)
oh thats a no noo..
I have been a fan of starfinders work since 2002(I think) and thinks she has tremendous skills but like prefar says she wastes it. She constantly draws things for her bf but no work on any of the commissions she owes. I shouldn't even have to point out the icon commissions she took some months ago. I think she only finished like two batches. Where are the others? I love her work but I wouldn't commission her to save my life and neither should you. Also.....didn't know about the tracing/exact referencing thing. wow just wow. You know.....she may be screwing us over now but once she really tries to get out there professionally, reality is gonna hit like a train and we can all sit back and laugh.
jurann
Mar. 10th, 2008 07:02 pm (UTC)
Re: oh thats a no noo..
Professional artists everywhere use reference materials and even light-table stuff all the time. =P It's not considered to be very "naughty" in the workplace, I'm honestly surprised so many furries seem to think this is some sort of big deal. It's not blatant plagiarism unless you pretty much completely take someone else's work and say it's yours. After all, Andy Warhol built an art empire on taking other people's art, cutting it up and putting it back together with filters and color transforms, yet nobody seemed to make a big stink about it. At the point where you've re-fleshed a piece, even if you started with a tracing as your base silhouette, it's an original piece. Sure it would be even COOLER if you didn't start out with traced lines, but it doesn't constitute plagiarism unless it's such a simple drawing that tracing makes practically an exact copy (i.e. cartoons).
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