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Do not work with DredWalker

I was commissioned to do some character work for a person called DredWalker on Deviantart. Everything seemed ok when we both agreed to work on his commission piece. So DredWalker said he would send me the first money order in the mail. Which was fine with me so I waited for the money order because I know it's takes about a week to come in the snail mail. First week nothing ok that's fine I can wait, second week nothing ok myabe the mail is slow, third week I e-mailed him back letting him know that I did not get his first money order and that I wouldn't start his project without him making the first payment.  I was charging him a $100 for one human character and one animal character. Our agreement was half up front and the rest of the money when the commissions was done. I'd post the image in my gallery with a water mark and an extra graphic because I knew water marks could be removed.

So he says ok and that it must have gotten lost in the mail, I say that's fine stop payment on that one and just send me other one when you get the money. After that 3 days later I finally got the first money order and  I started on the sketches them showed it to him he approved, then I moved on to the flat colors and he approved of that. Afterwards I would post each piece step by step in my gallery just in case he wanted changes. By the third stage he asked me to make a few changes which I did and it took me an two days. Working with DredWalker seemed to be going well. Here's the link with DredWalker saying he likes what going on so far and said he sent me an e-mail. In the e-mail he did ask for a few changes which I did.

However there was a problem at the end where I asked him to pay me the remaining $50 because I was finished with his commission.   DredWalker said he'd pay me by the end of the week with a personal check, I had to remind him that I didn't take personal checks again I gave him the reason why. Then I got another e-mail from him saying he wanted to see the final image. I didn't think much of it I sent him the final image with a water mark and extra graphic. As I stated here in my journal which I linked him to in our first e-mails back and forth.http://ebony-chan.deviantart.com/journal/14463671/

Then I got another e-mail from him saying he could barely see the image. So I sent him a larger image but I still kept the graphics on it until I was paid. Which is here  http://ebony-chan.deviantart.com/art/DredWalker-s-Dimiri-Done-70509230 let me know if you have a hard time seeing the image people. Again DredWalker e-mails me saying he couldn't really see that image because of the water mark and extra graphics on it and if I could remove them so he could have a better look. ( Oh like I haven't heard that one before! Ha! ) I told him one and they would stay until I was paid the rest of my money.  DredWalker then goes into this rant saying that he already sent me $50 and that I should trust him with the final image. I again said no the graphics stay until I am paid the rest of my money. He then posts in his journal that I cheated him out of money and that he never really got the project.

It's in the link below which you can flow to other links with talks between me and DredWalker. I also copied and paste his journal to mine and address each thing in it.


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Dec. 9th, 2007 06:13 am (UTC)

To be perfectly honest, I've been seeing your less than stellar business practices for a long time. I think I'd like to give you some advice.

You treat people as if they are all out to rip you off pretty much. All I ever seem to hear out of you is complaints about scams and how people won't pay you what you think you're worth, along with constant blogging for commissions. You don't encourage customers to trust you in return when you treat them like they're all going to steal from you.

We all get customers who jerk us around and who rip us off, the key thing is professional artists don't screw all their customers around over a few ignorant people. Flicking through your blog? Is quite possibly one of the most negative experiences I've ever had. Seriously work on your public face, nobodies saying artists should be sunshine and light, but when you complain that much it seriously looks like you're just trying to get pity commissions. Customers don't care about your issues 90% of the time.

It's healthy to know what the risks are and to take steps to protect yourself but you take it right the way over the line and into downright paranoia at times.

Incidentally I still remember the crap you pulled on several boards including slanging matches with customers, by the way that comes up when your name is googled, way to get yourself a permanent black mark against reputation, any art director googles you? They're not going to be too impressed and I know you want to get into professional art.

Getting onto the whole dredwalker thing, one would ask why on earth you are going out of your way to make it awkward for people to pay you just because you got screwed because you didn't think to get seller protection, an $800 commission and you didn't protect yourself? Then you go and compound an original mistake by taking it out on all your future customers? You have a less than brilliant long term strategy there. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

Additionally you're looking pretty bad by slinging insults at dredwalker because the commission went wrong because you both went into it with different expectations. It's not actually unusual for artists to get paid after the fact, especially in the professional leagues. Some private commissioners follow the same rules, yes, he might have been trying to rip you off but he might not have. Whether or not you decided to take a chance and/or work it out, blowing up into the paranoia fit and calling him stuff like a "snake", "jerk-off" and a "scammer" plus going all out on him including calling him a liar because he was apparently afraid that you were going to scam him? Practically guaranteed that there would be a spanner in the works, you might have been able to work it out, that went out the window once you let your temper get the best of you.

While it's bad that he hasn't paid you fully, you have not behaved particularly well either. I'd suggest you go back to business school and take a few remedial lessons followed by anger management before you continue to try and make an impact in the art world, otherwise the only impact you make will be a profoundly negative one.
Dec. 9th, 2007 11:00 am (UTC)
Well said. :)
Dec. 9th, 2007 04:13 pm (UTC)

Thanks, for some reason it seems to have gone straight over Ebony's head, oh well no doubt it's a precursor to more of the usual.


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