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Edit.
Thanks for just plain mocking me when I tried to ask a serious question on whether I was getting upset over nothing or not. -.- The same people helped me out in the previous post, why do you have to be rude now?


I gandered over to the website that this commissioner gave me, just to make sure she was not using my sketches or anything that someone else colored.

First, here is the link to the sketches I did for her.

http://vampiremackenzie.deviantart.com/art/Cheshire-Sketches-63645695

Here are the images I found on her photobucket, obviously the ones she had done for her.


Here's the other (crappier one)... http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b121/ToxicCupcake/DeviantKittiesLogo.jpg (Ow, that hurts my eyes."

Now for the sake of argument. I flipped my crouching kitty sketch.

Now.. am I just being paranoid. Or did they use the same pose.

Not only that, BUT, it seems that my basic 'cheshire' design was also taken. (See  http://vampiremackenzie.deviantart.com/art/Cheshire-16241487)  Of which the pose is also similar, and the face is quite similar too.

Or am I just being over-paranoid and biased.. -.-
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kimpers
Oct. 1st, 2007 04:24 am (UTC)
I personally know the person who did the first drawing - http://darkrainfall.blogspot.com/ - And I know for a fact she wouldn't copy anything, so. However, that picture looks like a recolor on one of my friend's drawings.
spiffystuff
Oct. 1st, 2007 04:32 am (UTC)
Errr, I'm sorry, it sucks that she stiffed you, but her new image is, at best, "inspired by" yours. The legs and stuff are different. There's no law against using a style, etc, as long as it's not traced from or can be mistaken for a copywrited character. (and I'm rather glad of that, or there'd be no more art allowed ever)

Again, sucks she cancelled and didn't tell you, but that seems to be the extent of the problem.
m4ck3nzi3
Oct. 1st, 2007 02:31 pm (UTC)
I'm just saying, it seems that my basic 'cheshire' design and pose was taken--maybe not the artist's fault, but the commissioner who said "Do this in this style and pose."
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sunhawk
Oct. 1st, 2007 04:35 am (UTC)
I think it's hard to suggest that the pose is based on yours considering it's something of a normal crouching kitty pose. I don't think it's that similiar, maybe inspired by, but there are definite differences. Especially the head and arms, they look pretty different in terms of pose.
rote_gefahr
Oct. 1st, 2007 04:36 am (UTC)
Cat (c) Nature. That pose is (c) Cat.
OMFG art theft!
immortalpanda
Oct. 1st, 2007 05:11 am (UTC)
IAWTC
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jesspark
Oct. 1st, 2007 04:40 am (UTC)
...Or did they use the same pose.

Oh, goodness gracious, no. Same commission description + crouching feline anatomy = somewhat similar poses... but I never would have considered one of those pieces actually copying the other pose-wise.
m4ck3nzi3
Oct. 1st, 2007 02:33 pm (UTC)
Okay, but look at the style of the cats and tell me if they're similar :|
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space_mutt
Oct. 1st, 2007 05:00 am (UTC)
Hate to say it, but I'm not really seeing it. The head's a different position, the front legs are angeled differently, the curvature of the spine is less exaggerated, and the positioning of the back legs are opposite of the first drawing. The shoulders aren't hunched, and the claws are splayed in one but not the other. The only major similarity I'm seeing here is the path that the tail takes.
m4ck3nzi3
Oct. 1st, 2007 02:34 pm (UTC)
The pose may be a normal just crouching pose, but look at the style of the cats.
thornwolf
Oct. 1st, 2007 05:11 am (UTC)
They didn't copy it they probably just also liked the general idea of a crouching cat, but theres nothing similar about the images other than the fact you could call that pose a "crouch". :/
m4ck3nzi3
Oct. 1st, 2007 02:35 pm (UTC)
The reason I'm upset is because (since the previous issue) the commissioner obviously (rephrase--Most likely) went to this other person and said "I want THIS type of cat in THIS pose". :( Mostly just feels like the design was taken.. not so much the pose..
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avanyu
Oct. 1st, 2007 05:23 am (UTC)
Yes, you're being paranoid.
brokenbrawler
Oct. 1st, 2007 05:30 am (UTC)
It definitely doesn't look like a copy to me... and pretty, pretty please post your images under a cut.
cassu_bean
Oct. 1st, 2007 06:22 am (UTC)
Agreed. MY FRIENDS PAGE. D:
cuprohastes
Oct. 1st, 2007 06:39 am (UTC)
No, I think they just used a generic crouching cat pose.
zoom_gas
Oct. 1st, 2007 07:27 am (UTC)
MAN THATS EXACTLY LIKE YOURS
YOU SHOULD SUE!!!
m4ck3nzi3
Oct. 1st, 2007 02:36 pm (UTC)
Yeah.. thanks. -.-

I enjoy being mocked for just asking if I'm being unreasonable or not.
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thaily
Oct. 1st, 2007 09:02 am (UTC)
They did use a similar pose but not the same, so legally you can't pursue this.
Also, unless you've copyrighted and/or trademarked the design of the cats you can't pursue that legally either.

You'll have to write this off as a learning experience.
emlan
Oct. 1st, 2007 10:06 am (UTC)
If someone told me to draw a crouching cat it would look like these too.
m4ck3nzi3
Oct. 1st, 2007 02:40 pm (UTC)
*sigh* OKAY, but look at the overall DESIGN of the cats. -.-
niiku
Oct. 1st, 2007 01:34 pm (UTC)
I hate to sound harsh but....

One person doesn't own a pose. XP

Also, the cheshire cat is a very basic concept... a slightly evil-looking feline with stripes and an accentuated face of some sort. You can't own that. If anything, the person who wrote Alice in Wonderland owns that.

So yeah, I think you're being paranoid and biased. I'm sorry you got stiffed, but yeah. :P
nambroth
Oct. 1st, 2007 02:49 pm (UTC)
The design and style of the two strike me as different enough that I wouldn't even draw a similarity, personally. :}
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