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Rules and Reminders

Hi guys;

Your friendly neighborhood mod here, writing on behalf of all us friendly neighboorhood mods. First up, we wanted to say how pleased we are that this community trundles along with so little drama (considering the subject matter). Just about everyone here shows a great deal of restraint and respect for one another.

However, no community is so perfect it can't be improved. So we'd like to issue a new rule, and remind everyone of a few of the old ones.

New Rule: No screening of comments. EVER.

This rule has been suggested a number of times, but we didn't think it was a necessary implimentation until we noticed that some people were screening dissenting comments on their own posts. This is a community for open discussion. You don't get open discussion if you screen anyone who disagrees with you.

As you know, Livejournal doesn't give us a way to prevent comment screening, so we're going to have to trust you guys to do the right thing. However, if you notice anyone screening comments, please email one of the mods. Our addresses are on the userinfo page. Not only can we unscreen comments, but we intend to use a three-strikes system to enforce this. If you're caught comment-screening once, you receive a polite reminder of this rule. If you're caught a second time, you get a Stern Warning and two-week ban. If you do it a third time, you'll be permenantly banned from the community.

There are no exceptions to the rule. Even if you see a troll or something incredibly offensive, email the mods. If it's truly trolling - and it's usually fairly easy to tell - we'll screen the comment ourselves.

New Guideline: Don't post about yourself.

If you've been an Artist To Beware yourself, please try to handle it with your clients directly. Making a post about yourself on this community is seen by some of the members as a form of attention-seeking. I know that's not necessarily the case, but nevertheless: if you're truly an awful deadline-breaking scumbag artist, sooner or later one of your clients will grant your wish and post you up here in a fit of impatience.

This is a guideline rather than a strict rule. You're free to go ahead and warn people about yourself if you wish, but be prepared to face criticism in the comments.

Reminders:

- If you see a breakout of flaming in the comments, don't sit back and complain "Where are the mods?" We don't check back on every post every day and we don't get comment notification on other people's posts. Email us, and we'll sort of the issue promptly.

- Flames: This goes without saying, but please try to treat people with respect and manners, even if they really are total goits. People tend to listen to calm comments backed up with logic.

We'll be updating the userinfo to reflect these changes over the next couple of days.

As we're tweaking the rules at the moment anyway, now is the time to tell us if you think there's a big issue in the community that a new rule could help solve. Suggestions are welcome, but please don't be insulted if we don't implement every change suggested. After all, this community really does run itself amazingly well as is. If it ain't broke, don't fix it!

NOTE: If you're sitting there thinking "this is about / because of ME", please don't. Whatever you've done, others did it before you and others would have done it after you. We'll only make a new rule if we see a problem crop up repeatedly from more than one source.
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Comments

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foxhack
Jun. 28th, 2007 12:25 am (UTC)
I do have one suggestion.

Make screening comments once a temporary ban. Twice a permanent ban.
tania
Jun. 28th, 2007 12:28 am (UTC)
I want the first instance to be a warning only - I do want to give people the benefit of the doubt. We're sure to see cases where someone simply forgot the rule, or wasn't aware of it.

However, a temporary ban on offense #2 leading to a full ban on #3 is quite a good idea.
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tania
Jun. 28th, 2007 12:34 am (UTC)
That one is tougher to enforce - there's no technical way of doing it on LJ, so it relies on honor again. And if someone makes and deletes a comment when us mods aren't around, it literally leaves no trace, making it a very difficult rule to enforce.

However, if any member receives a flame comment in their inbox and turns up to LJ to find it deleted, I'd encourage them to forward the comment notification to us mods. We'll treat deleted flames in the same way we'd treat any other flame: any member caught flaming others too often is going to get a banning. There is NO excuse for flaming; the harshest of criticisms can still be delivered with mild words.

By the same token, I hope all members recognise that someone disagreeing with you is not the same as someone flaming you.
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bladespark
Jun. 28th, 2007 12:39 am (UTC)
Sounds good to me! I hate screened comments. If you can't deal with stuff being said about you in public, why are you posting in public anyhow?
ridayah
Jun. 28th, 2007 01:06 am (UTC)
I think that this is a wonderful policy, thank you for implementing it. Hopefully it will go a long way in preventing and reducing the damage of inflammatory and malicious posts. Again, thank you.
mdetector5
Jun. 28th, 2007 01:35 am (UTC)
*sigh...* Another rule?!

Well, I guess I have to follow this one, then.
mdetector5
Jun. 28th, 2007 01:43 am (UTC)
I guess this new asinine rule is because of me...

I mean, there's no way to avoid it, so why not do it anyway?
tania
Jun. 28th, 2007 01:54 am (UTC)
I can assure you there've been plenty of people in the past who've posted 'Beware Of Me' posts. It's not because of you. I'm sure you had good intentions, as do all the artists who make those posts. In fact, that's the point: you were flamed unnecessarily and we'd like to prevent that from happening to anyone else. :)
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arshes
Jun. 28th, 2007 01:47 am (UTC)
Maybe I'm being too sarcastic here, but can there be a rule about a certain person posting?

Seem everything is about "him"

I think I recall you saying that rule was in effect for a while and you're just reiterating it.
tania
Jun. 28th, 2007 01:51 am (UTC)
People are more than capable of making themselves look silly without any help from us mods. :)
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theblackdragon
Jun. 28th, 2007 12:58 pm (UTC)
iawtc x 9999999999
leahtaur
Jun. 28th, 2007 06:06 am (UTC)
Thank you! This community really is well-run considering the subject matter, thanks to both the restraint of most of its users AND well-written rules and level-headed mods. :) No complaints here.

thaily
Jun. 28th, 2007 06:48 am (UTC)
"New Rule: No screening of comments. EVER."

Finally!
Now if we can just get a rule against deleting comments.
thaily
Jun. 28th, 2007 07:15 am (UTC)
Oh, and could the moderating be more consistent?

I mean, I get it if you guys don't have a lot of time to babysit the comm but after I toned down my language (by about a million degrees) and call someone a "cretin" I have a mod jumping down my throat but in the meantime a person who appeared in the comm only to defend some whine was calling people assholes, drama sluts, cock licks and numb nuts and the mods were NOWHERE TO BE SEEN!
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lilenth
Jun. 28th, 2007 01:16 pm (UTC)

Sounds fair enough, though I ditto Thaily, we do need the moderating to be a little more consistent. While I don't agree with name calling in general, even the best of us might get a bit annoyed at certain people who have proven to be less than stellar in terms of intelligence lately and it is a bit perplexing to see a mod come down on someone for mild name calling then not be there when things are really getting nasty.
kerstin_orion
Jun. 28th, 2007 09:25 pm (UTC)
We try to check through posts occasionally. I do it randomly, especially ones with heated discussions. In fact, I track about half the posts here so I see every comment that is posted (as long as it isn't deleted).

However, there are a lot of posts on here and sometimes things do get overlooked. If someone gets nasty and a mod isn't around, everyone doesn't have to get irate back. Just email one (or all) of us mods and we'll hop on it. Our email addresses are posted right on the userinfo page.

I, for one, check my email about every 30 minutes in the evenings right up until I go to bed. So that's a 5 or 6-hour window (from time getting off work until bed) that I am available and right here to be contacted. I even check email in the mornings before work if I have a few extra minutes. And if direct email is too much of a pain, I don't mind at all if someone comments in my most recent journals. I get direct emails from comments in my jourals, too. ^_^
kerstin_orion
Jun. 28th, 2007 10:14 pm (UTC)
OK, new rule is officially posted and in effect.
grygon
Jul. 6th, 2007 06:14 am (UTC)
New Guideline: Don't post about yourself.

thank you!!!!!
quoting_mungo
Jul. 8th, 2007 11:06 am (UTC)
No screening, that makes sense.
What about freezing threads? It does sometimes work to dissuade flamewars, and leaves everything intact for mods to see.

Just checking to clarify.


-Alexandra
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