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Zippo is INSANE

I've worked with a lot of people over on FurAffinity without any problems. The user Zippo seemed okay at first when he initially sent me a note wanting to commission me. I asked him to please send me an e-mail with a description of what he wanted as well as ref pictures if he had any.

So he does this, all is good and well, but it's against my personal policy to draw animal genitals, and I of course reserve the right to decline any commission if I feel uncomfortable with the subject matter. Well, this was exactly the case, on both counts. So, first, I asked if he'd be willing to make a compromise with the genitals in question he wanted me to draw. He took massive amounts of offense to this and made a very snotty reply saying that he definitely would NOT make any such compromise.

So okay, no commission for him, whatever. I didn't really mind.

Then, I had received a rather offending comment on one of my pictures which made me write about it in my journal. I named no names, didn't point anyone in anyone else's direction to encourage flame wars or anything of the like. This was TOTALLY UNRELATED to my dealings with Zippo. However, he thought it was all about him and responded by attacking me. You can see what happened in the following link.

http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/138252/

Okay, so then I decide to just move on and I make another journal entry just about general commission stuff, I figure the bone has been buried, everything is well and fine. Boy howdy, I was wrong. Zippo sent me a message over YahooIM and the following conversation took place.

Zippo (6/4/2007 7:51:45 AM): you could have been a bit more kind about it >.<

Zippo (6/4/2007 7:52:13 AM): I dont call you a sicko for your tastes do I?

DroolingLupine (6/4/2007 5:53:35 PM): When the hell did I call you a sicko? That journal wasn't about you, you need to hurry up and get over it. You have a right to your own sexual preferences/fetishes, but I am not obligated to agree with them or to draw representations of them. I'm not going to discuss this any further with you. I was perfectly kind with you until you suddenly attacked me for no good fucking reason, so as far as I'm concerned you don't deserve any more kindness or courtesy from me. So fuck off, please.

Zippo (6/4/2007 8:46:37 PM): eh, you dont desurve my kindness. I literly opened myself up to you and you rejected everything I saught and stood for. Your ego-sidistic, overpriced, and I wish I haddent put all that wasted effort into my desc. you disgust me. If I had your address I would fuck up your back even more for being an asshole. So much for taking pitty on someone if thats what ill get in return. Computers are wonderful things, I can find you. I can find better talent elsewhere. go cry to the FA admins now and fuckoff


So I'm understandably pretty disturbed and upset, so I made another journal entry about all this. Not trying to drag out drama, but because, fuck...the guy just threatened me with BODILY HARM. I had to do something. The next link is that journal entry, along with crazy comments.

http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/138661/

I already noted the admins and they said that while they totally sympathize, they can't do much in the way of banning him because he didn't say those things on FurAffinity, he said them using an IM service. So that kind of sucks, but I understand.

So, basically, I'm posting this to give everyone a heads up about Zippo. If he wants to commission you, make it crystal clear, as if you were speaking to a small child, what you are NOT willing to draw. Because if you let him type up a long description of what he wants, and it turns out to be something you aren't comfortable with, something like the above could happen to you.
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bladespark
Jun. 5th, 2007 04:38 am (UTC)
Yay for insane, over-sensitive would-be stalkers. O.o I'm really sorry you had to deal with that crap.
lanabananaotter
Jun. 5th, 2007 04:44 am (UTC)
That's not cool! >:[
Physical threats are way beyond the boundaries of good taste, and if the guy's actually serious, he needs psycological help.
Thanks for the heads-up... I'll avoid him like the plague.
growly
Jun. 5th, 2007 04:46 am (UTC)
Oh crap, thanks for the warning. D:
Y'see, THIS is why I'm closing furry commissions!
bladespark
Jun. 5th, 2007 05:25 am (UTC)
You are? Just art, or fursuit stuff too?
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eski
Jun. 5th, 2007 04:55 am (UTC)
My goodness... I'm so sorry. I'm sorry that you had to encounter someone who wanted to basically treat you like a prostitute with your artwork, and then proceeds to threaten you with bodily harm. I sincerely hope that you never run into such a person again. <3
thornwolf
Jun. 5th, 2007 05:04 am (UTC)
dude, i dont understand what part of "has the right to refuse service for any reason" people don't understand. its not like you took the money and was like "mmmnope not gonna draw it, but ill keep your money tra la tra la". I hate this attitude thats going around that once someone pays you you are bound by law to draw anything they want regardless of how offensive you find it.
valhallahound
Jun. 5th, 2007 05:11 am (UTC)
I never even collected payment from him, which makes all this so much more retarded. I mean, I can understand if I had taken the money and fled or didn't give a full refund or something, but NO MONEY was ever exchanged, so....I dunno. The crazy bug crawled up his butt and into his brain.
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blueroo
Jun. 5th, 2007 05:07 am (UTC)
Zippo does not get a free pass just because he was was clever enough to IM you off FurAffinity. I promise.
starcharmer
Jun. 5th, 2007 05:14 am (UTC)
I am so grateful to you for this. If he had ever tried to commission me to draw an animal or an alien penis, I would have said, "I do not draw them, Sam I Am." And then this would all have been me. ): But I'm still sorry you had to go through it...just glad I didn't. If that makes sense...
zoom_gas
Jun. 5th, 2007 05:15 am (UTC)
Holy shit, you've got to be kidding me. What an idiot. He is threatening you with physical violence over your refusal to draw dog cock???? Wow. I can't believe people like that exist.
Oh wait. Furries. Yeah, nevermind.
Anyways, props to you for keeping a cool head and standing by your guidelines. I'm also lolling pretty hard at "YOU'RE A PORNOGRAPHER, HOW DARE YOUUUUU".
valhallahound
Jun. 5th, 2007 05:26 am (UTC)
I draw porn, THUS I DRAW EVERY KIND OF PORN.

SURELY I am the crazy one here for not following that unwritten rule. XD
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banka_flavored
Jun. 5th, 2007 05:51 am (UTC)
Extremely upsetting -_- I usually don't get involved with drama-esque stuff (yeah right) but damn, he actually THREATENED you? Seriously, screwed up. I hope something can be done, he shouldnt be allowed to threaten someone and get away with it willy nilly.
xothia
Jun. 5th, 2007 05:55 am (UTC)
Is this seriously over drawing animal cock vs people cock?
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blueroo
Jun. 5th, 2007 06:07 am (UTC)
This behavior is entirely consistent with Zippo's history. I have no trouble believing it. Zippo has been banned.
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fareme
Jun. 5th, 2007 06:06 am (UTC)
Wow. D: That is horrible, I'm so sorry to see you went through that!
Thanks for the heads up, though, for the rest of us.

Sidenote: Anyone who lists 2600.com as their favorite website has got to be some kind of STUPID anyway. :P Ugh, what a poser.
leahtaur
Jun. 5th, 2007 06:08 am (UTC)
Actually, he appears to have been banned, perhaps for the comments he said in that journal. While your experience with him was pretty extreme, yours wasn't the first, and I feel like this ban was a long time coming.

BUT HEY. What do I know. XD
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borealbobcat
Jun. 5th, 2007 05:19 pm (UTC)
lol... woooooooow.

OMG, how dare you censor your own art!? For serious.
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alcyione
Jun. 5th, 2007 07:02 am (UTC)
OMG FURSECUTION!!!!

This would have been sum good lawlz had it not been for the physical threats. Love it when the freaks get butthurt over being judged for their gross fixations.

*shakes head* I'm so sorry you had to deal with this guy. :(
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