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I don;'t think I will ever commission from a convention again, I have been ripped off too many times:

2006 Nekocon - Didn't pay, thankfully, but never heard word about a watercolor commission
2006 Otakon - Two commissions, one to Max Blackrabbit (who I have not heard from in quite a while) and another from "Asashi Kaigami" (Who's last reply to my e-mails came in December)
2005 Otakon - Completely forgot about this one, it was so long ago. "Enki Kaikan/Katree Irmen" hasn't replied since 2005.

I just.. Don't get it. I've been contacting these artists and they seem to have fallen off the face of the earth. I'd love to be repaid what I gave them because I'm broke now, but I.. I don't know where they went!

If anyone has heard of these artists being alive and active, please send them my way because I want either my artwork or my money. Plenty of time has elapsed for them to complete it.
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rakshepsaar
Apr. 5th, 2007 07:47 pm (UTC)
I've actually heard several complaints about Max Blackrabbit going MIA with unfinished commissions. One would think that an artist with such a wide reputation in the fandom would be a little more reliable, if only to save his reputation. O_o
blakcat71388
Apr. 5th, 2007 07:48 pm (UTC)
I had written about him.. A little while ago on here. And he replied to me then and said that he'd get my art to me. But... Still nothing. >
kimpers
Apr. 5th, 2007 08:28 pm (UTC)
My boyfriend bought a commission from him one year, and never heard from him at all, and he never responded to emails. Was a paid commission too, so he bolted with the money.
filthy_animal
Apr. 5th, 2007 08:59 pm (UTC)
He's on FurAffinity if you're looking for him, I commented below with his FA link:

http://www.furaffinity.net/user/maxblackrabbit/

Still posting art regularly, as well as asking for money.
duraji_synth
Apr. 7th, 2007 04:18 am (UTC)
It's people who do that that power my response to artists who wish for all the money in advance before they even start anything.

Money is a great motivator. They should never touch any of the money until they've completed their side of the deal.
thaily
Apr. 7th, 2007 10:44 am (UTC)
Artists get screwed over by would-be customers just the same as customers get screwed over by artists, a 50% payment in advance is perfectly acceptable.
duraji_synth
Apr. 7th, 2007 04:19 pm (UTC)
Agreed. That's why I said that giving ALL the payment is not a great idea. The trouble though, of course, is that there's an equal number of unreliable commissioners as there are an unreliable number of commissionees... it's not an easy thing to work out, certainly not as easy as it should be.
kimpers
Apr. 5th, 2007 08:25 pm (UTC)
I've commissioned two people from Otakon - the only commissions I've ever bought - and both artists dropped off the face of the earth without so much as a sketch. One was from 2004, the other from 2005, and I've given up on both.

So I feel your pain. I don't even want to commission anyone again at all after getting burned the two times I've tried.
filthy_animal
Apr. 5th, 2007 08:58 pm (UTC)
Max Blackrabbit? I'm watching them on FurAffinity, they're over here:

http://www.furaffinity.net/user/maxblackrabbit/

Still posting art regularly, as well as asking for money.
lilenth
Apr. 5th, 2007 09:06 pm (UTC)

Unfortunately that is the risk you run with commissions. It's possible to lessen the chances of being ripped off but there's always that one time.
arshes
Apr. 5th, 2007 10:25 pm (UTC)
I'm slow at commissions too
But I make sure I never take money I can't refund.

However, you might want to see this: http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/107044/
blakcat71388
Apr. 5th, 2007 11:50 pm (UTC)
Re: I'm slow at commissions too
But I think a year is a liiiiittle too long. Especially considering I paid a good amount of money. >
arshes
Apr. 6th, 2007 12:00 am (UTC)
Re: I'm slow at commissions too
Oh I can understand that and if the person wants their money back I give it to them. I can also understand being upset when waiting this long, I think at least an offering of a refund is in order.

To tell me someone is worth the wait, umm no. It's a piece of entertainment at most, if he can't fulfill the obligation, then give a refund. Don't ever bite off more than you can chew because it does get people upset with you.
sorien
Apr. 5th, 2007 11:48 pm (UTC)
Well...
Max WILL get it done. He's just not quick. Get ahold of him as those above have mentioned- His work is worth it. :)
unclekage
Apr. 6th, 2007 12:39 am (UTC)
I concur. Max is a good fellow. He's just mad busy and doesn't read his email as often as he should.

maxblackrabbit
Apr. 6th, 2007 12:49 am (UTC)
Awww, I understand your position but please don't give up yet. For my part I apologize, I get so buried in my job, friends, travel and the whole art thing that I push too many things to the back burner, without constant reminders, it takes me forever to get back to people sometimes. I'll try to complete sometime soon.

(see, this is why I'm reluctant to take any new commissions at this time. :)
arshes
Apr. 6th, 2007 01:21 am (UTC)
Well I'll be honest
Just taking it from a position of a person understanding business practices. You do need to organize yourself a bit better.

I'm reading this guy's post. According to him, he went to a con you attended, and I kinda doubt you went to the con to lolligag so much to make money on the side.

Furthermore, if I was an observer and noticing gift art was going out faster than a commission I'd be more upset.

It's understandable if you have a life and other obligations, but people paying money, there is no excuse for them not to take priority in the list of art things to do. If you can't fulfill the obligation once again, give them a refund.

This is not about you are a bad person, but rather just an even minded perspective of treating people who paid you up front. Those that haven't well they don't take priority of course.
maxblackrabbit
Apr. 6th, 2007 07:29 am (UTC)
Re: Well I'll be honest
This is also why I'm taking less and less work home with me from conventions (unless it's someone I know personally) I need a secretary.:)
arshes
Apr. 6th, 2007 04:21 pm (UTC)
Re: Well I'll be honest
Well, if you need any help with getting things organized, drop me a note on FA. I am usually good at organizing stuff for people XD
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