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At FC I disregarded what I had read here and commissioned an artist that is known for ripping people off. I paid $20 for a badge and I was told it would be done by the end of the con. I checked in the last day, and they had already left. So I threw an email their way when I got home. I was told it wasn't done and they'd "get to it asap". I got it a day later, which I appreciated the quick turn around and it looks nice. So I gave them my mailing address. I waited. And waited. And waited. No badge. So a month laterish I email them telling them it hadn't arrived and I was worried.
I was then told that they wanted to wait until they had enough badges to mail out in bulk and I had to wait until that happened... I'm not too pleased with this answer, as that could be months for all I know...

What should I do or say to express these feelings? It's bad enough people think I'm an asshole as it is, I'm really not trying to come off that way because it just isn't true.
Is it common practice for people to have their clients wait for their badge until they have a bulk amount to ship at once? I don't want to treat this person unfairly, I'd just like to have the badge I paid for.
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Apr. 4th, 2007 11:59 pm (UTC)
I'm pretty certain that waiting until you can mail a large amount at once is NOT an uncommon business practice.

Basically, even if it cheeses you off (the artist really should have talked to you before the end of the con, but extenuating circumstances...), as long as you get your badge in the mail within a reasonable amount of time, there's no reason to "express these feelings" to the artist in any way other than professionally: recommend politely to them that they have a page of shipping policies, after-con art completion policies, etc so that future commissioners can know what they're up for.
Apr. 5th, 2007 12:06 am (UTC)
I have asked them to mail it as soon as the could, and that is when contact dropped. They have since posted art, so they have been online.
Everything between me and the artist has been polite, nor me or the artist have been rude to one another.
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Apr. 4th, 2007 11:59 pm (UTC)
I know I do that, but I make sure it's okay with everyone before I do it. Like.. I ask them what date they need it by exactly and then I get it to them by then, and if they don't need it for a while I send more than one at once. If someoene told me they wanted or needed it sooner, i'd send it sooner.
Apr. 5th, 2007 12:06 am (UTC)
I feel I should set the the deadline for Califur or AC.
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Apr. 5th, 2007 12:20 am (UTC)
Wow starting to sound like my dealings with a certain continually tardy artist.

I can def understand things coming up but a few months soon turn into a year..

Just send them a polite email reminding them that you did pay in full and it was to be delivered at the con and even though that deadline has been broken the least they can do is go ahead and ship it especially because of your inconvenience.

Unless the artist said that thats how the operate then they cant just be making up rules as they go along..
Apr. 5th, 2007 12:29 am (UTC)
I think I know who you're talking about, and if I'm correct...you can expect never to get the actual copy of your badge in the mail. I commissioned the same artist, finished the badge swiftly enough and I paid extra for a hard, print copy to be sent to me. It's been...over 6 months and I don't expect to see it.
Apr. 5th, 2007 12:33 am (UTC)
I know it's nice to have the actual badge.. but the way I see it, you should at least be glad you got the art. It's not like you couldn't print it out yourself if a con came around and it hadn't been mailed yet. So it's not a complete rip-off.
Apr. 5th, 2007 12:50 am (UTC)
But when Rensis paid for the art there was an agreement for it to be mailed.

That's the problem. The artist is not completing the deal.
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Apr. 5th, 2007 12:48 am (UTC)
This is completely unrelated, but I was reading your post and I got to the 'it's bad enough people think I'm an asshole as it is', and went 'huh?' So I checked your lj name and then I was like 'ohhhhhhh...'
Does that make me a bad person? Certain folks fling a lot of poo aboutcha is all I've got to say.

On a related note, if the artist was supposed to get it to you at con then that sucks :/ but I also have to wait til I have more stuff to mail it because I don't have a car and I have to harass my roommates into driving me to the post office. So give them some lenience, but if it takes too long you might consider sending another polite note indicating that you had hoped to have it in time for AC/MFF/whatevahs.
Apr. 5th, 2007 01:03 am (UTC)
Sometimes, I do wait until I have a bunch of stuff to be mailed. I've actually been saving up things for the past...2 or 3 weeks.


A. I ask everyone if they need it by a deadline.
B. I told everyone before they commissioned me that this was my plan. And
C. I gave them an EXACT DATE that everything would be shipped on [the 5th].

So far, I don't see a problem, since you don't NEED the badge right now, but I can certainly understand the anticipation aspect and instant gratification. Hope you don't have to wait long, and if you do...warn us about the long wait. ;D
Apr. 5th, 2007 02:50 am (UTC)
I don't understand mailing things in bulk, it's not all going to the same place is it?

Unless they have a difficult time getting around, there's no reason they should hold it back for weeks, or months, until they have enough things piled up to make a trip 'worthwhile.'

Just my opinion anyway. I'd probably say something just because they said it'd be done by the end of the con, and it wasn't. The least they could do is provide you with a speedy delivery.
Apr. 5th, 2007 03:15 am (UTC)
Yeah, me neither. All you need to do is buy a box of 500 envelopes and a few rolls of stamps. Mail carriers collect mail from mailboxes too as long as it's stamped properly. :P
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Apr. 5th, 2007 03:00 am (UTC)
The only time I don't send things off right away is when I've got several badges to do, then I wait until I have enough to fill a lamination page so I don't waste any. But I let people know ahead of time and all ... which is what this artist should have done. Artist gave you a time, it should have been done by then; and it's certainly very unprofessional to not get back in touch. Like people said already, it's not unreasonable for an often-commissioned artist to send things out in bulk, but I'd still keep this in mind for future commissions. That's annoying. :/
Apr. 5th, 2007 03:47 am (UTC)
I do a lot of business on EBay, and while it's okay to hold the item for maybe a week so a bunch of stuff can go out together and save multiple trips to the post office, any longer than that is rediculous. It's just a stall tactic. Maybe if she lived in Bumfuck Egypt and couldn't get to a post office it would be believable, but she don't. And if this is the artist that has been responsible for the most complaints on this board, that everyone and his brother should know to avoid by now, what did you expect?
Apr. 5th, 2007 04:08 am (UTC)
Agreed. If I have lots of small pieces, I'll wait until the end of the week to mail. All commissioners are made aware of this and shown thier art.

I don't think that the original poster is out of line in being annoyed. It's an envilope, many folks can just stick that in their home mail boxes with the flag up....no trip required. And if they ever get out of the house, it can be dropped ina mail box...it's not like it's a large package that requires the post office.

My $.02

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Apr. 8th, 2007 01:11 am (UTC)
While it is economical to wait until you have a fair few items to dispatch before heading to the Postie, it seems very unreasonable to make buyers wait excessive lengths of time for postage, or to decide they should wait X weeks without even contacting the buyer.

I don’t know about other people, but I factor in a small ‘handling’ cost, not just the price of postage. Most of my items are posted from the UK to the USA. So you’re paying me to get on my bike and cycle to the Post Office. And if I can’t personally make it to the PO in a reasonable time-frame, I ask a friend or rellie to do it for me.

I really don’t know why so many artists make such a big spazzing deal out of posting items, especially within their own country. Lazy, bad communication? I don’t know, but making a paying customer wait weeks (without contact) so you can make a ‘bulk dispatch’ sounds pretty damn weak to me.
Apr. 8th, 2007 12:45 pm (UTC)
Especially when postage wasn't as issue when I payed because they were supposed to get the badge done at the con. :|
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Apr. 16th, 2007 03:24 am (UTC)
Lesson learned: always take the word of this community
Apr. 16th, 2007 03:58 pm (UTC)
Sometimes people go fire and pitchforks here... So i take what i read with a grain of salt.
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