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Hi, this is my first post. I'm a long time lurker though. ^_^; I'm posting this for a friend who doesn't use LJ.
Anyway, to the point...

A friend of mine (I'll be keeping out his name. We'll just call him Fox) recently requested a comission from a girl online. She accepted Fox's request and asked that he send the money before she started. (Alright, that's normal. I'd do that too)

So, she gets the money and then shortly afterward, she backs out of the comission and claims she can't get Fox's money back to him for a refund. She has all kinds of excuses for keeping the money and not being able to return it. Fox didn't even have a set time frame for this girl. (she later asks for his address to mail the money back, but neither of us are confident in her actually returning the money)

Fox sent me the conversation and it seems really shady. (Under a LJ cut for length)

starvixsf: ok IM here. Look, this is not a cheat, so dont make it sound like such. I am having RL problems, and cant complete the work. I did NOT anticipate for this to happen, and I did apologise

starvixsf: I will send you the full refund with a MO since its sitting in my bank account. I will add 2 dollars of my own because of what paypal took from me with the transfer. I can get it out to you tomorrow with no problem

Fox says:
: .. its not that... I never really gave you a deadline.. And the way it read to me.. Your more worried fee's...

Fox says:
Look if your worried about the 2 dollers.. just keep your money use mine to send what's left back and forget it...

starvixsf: I am also moving in janurary. I will not have the net for months after I move, so I would have no way to even be in contact if we do, in fact, move house. Paypal took 2 dollars from me as fees with the transfer..they always take fees and it sucks. It wouldnt be a bother if I had the money, but I dont. I havent worked in 3 years despite trying to get work constantly. I would have to borr
borrow money just to get the 2 bucks back =/ I didnt anticipate for this stuff to happen in RL. I can either refund you the full 47, finish the badge and send it with a refund for 30 for the other pic with it, or can try after the new year to finish and send both. Its whatever you want to do

starvixsf: *sighs* Just know I am not doing this on purpose. I could have just kept e mailing...I dont know of any other artist that will jump on a messanger to talk the problem over. My messanger is mainly for close friends and family. I dont even feel comofrtable talking right now, and prefer to keep this to e mail

Fox says:
... then just forget the badge use my money to send my own refund and forget it... I understand RL comes first... But quit trying to give me a gilt trip...

starvixsf: I can send you a refund tomorrow if you send me your address..or I can try again after things settle down here. Please let me know, as I need to go offline right now. Refund might be better...once I move I wont have the net till who knows when, and the silence would be really unfair..Im hardley trying to guilt trip you. I plan on sending you the full 47 so chill

starvixsf: Send me your address and I will get it out tomorrow if I can get a ride to the post office
Fox says:
* * * * * *
starvixsf: whom am I addressing it to?

Fox says: Care of * * * * * *

starvixsf: It will go out tomorrow then, and sorry for the inconvienance. It should be to you by the end of the month if the PO is fast with it.

starvixsf has signed out. (12/5/2006 8:08 PM)



She usually only contacts her clients through email (frisky_kitten_graphics@hotmail.com) and her IM name is starvixsf

Argh! If you're moving and can't handle a comission DON'T ACCEPT IT. Idiots. Has anyone else done comissions with this girl?
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moonstone_wind
Dec. 6th, 2006 02:33 am (UTC)
Sounds like Molly Margay, whom has a bit of a history under a diff SN ive not seen before. Sorry your friend got jipped :( Someone correct me here if im wrong.
growly
Dec. 6th, 2006 02:54 am (UTC)
Yeah, that email address is really familiar, I think it is Molly as well.
moonstone_wind
Dec. 6th, 2006 03:31 am (UTC)
Im 99% shure it is, but having not wanted to have any form of contact with that crazy woman for eh 3 + years I just now hear her name in passing and if I can confirm I warn ppl of her flaky and cranky nature.
banewulf
Dec. 6th, 2006 03:34 am (UTC)
Really? I've seen Molly Margay floating around here and there... I've even considered comissioning her myself. o.o what has she done?
moonstone_wind
Dec. 6th, 2006 03:52 am (UTC)
Shes very ... how to put it ... Rude, crass and self contradictive all the time. Overly bragging about how good her art and fursuits are and how shes "sold every one of them" etc yet when I used to be friends with her she was always in massive drhama pity me mode / give me money so I can "survive" mode. Shes just... honestly one that needs to be avoided, and sadly from in passing since I severed ties with her she seems to not be any better if not worse in her buisness practices overall.
thaily
Dec. 6th, 2006 03:14 pm (UTC)
Wasn't she selling some personal items including an equine statue at one point?
moonstone_wind
Dec. 6th, 2006 05:49 pm (UTC)
That I dont know honestly sorry.
banewulf
Dec. 7th, 2006 01:08 am (UTC)
Oh man...this is good info. Thanks. o_o; It's always good to be careful with comissioners...
moonstone_wind
Dec. 7th, 2006 02:46 am (UTC)
Your welcome.
schnee
Dec. 6th, 2006 12:12 pm (UTC)
She also did use "Starvixen" as a handle in the past, so "starvixsf" also sounds like it's her.

And yeah, I'd advise against dealing with her, too. I once hosted a website for her for free, and I all I ever got was flak because she wasn't able to get things to work right. However, she insisted that since she had a computer-savvy boyfriend, the problem couldn't possibly on her side, and ultimately insulted me to the point where I simply gave her a certain amount of time to download her stuff again in case she needed to and then deleted her site later on.

I don't mind hosting stuff for free, and I don't even necessarily expect a "thank you" or anything like that, but I do expect to not be abused for it, at least. As far as I'm concerned, she's an entitlement bitch of the worst kind.
neolucky
Dec. 6th, 2006 02:46 am (UTC)
I like that she basically ignores "Fox's" replies, as if she's not even reading what they're saying and just babbling on about their own issues. I hope she DOES refund you though.
bladespark
Dec. 6th, 2006 04:58 am (UTC)
Yup, I can confirm that it's Molly as well.

And... she's neurotic, that's all. She always means well, but she has a LOT of personal issues, and is just plain incapable of being professional.

I've never commissioned her, but I'm in rather regular contact with her, and she's just not a professional individual at all.

And that bit about how she doesn't know of any other artist who would talk about problems over IM is a bunch of balogna. Almost every artist I know will let customers IM them! Heck, that's the ONLY reason I have AIM, is because so many of my customers use it, all my friends are on MSN or Yahoo.
bladespark
Dec. 10th, 2006 03:35 am (UTC)
As it has been drawn to my attention that this post was a bit rude, and possibly inaccurate, I will amend it to say that I have no direct knowledge whatsoever of her business practices. She is a member of my fursuiting forum, and to my knowledge has done no business with anybody there, so I cannot speak for her professional behavior, only for her actions there, which are of a non-business nature, as it's a discussion forum, not a marketplace.

The bit about the IMs still stands though.
lilenth
Dec. 6th, 2006 10:01 am (UTC)

$47 dollars, that's quite a bit of money to lose, what did your friend commission her to do that's worth that much?
tyreenya
Dec. 6th, 2006 06:41 pm (UTC)
oh that's Molly Margay alright:

http://mollymargay.deviantart.com/ (check out her email address in that link)


She's bad news
littlenightmare
Dec. 8th, 2006 03:01 pm (UTC)
OH Molly Molly Molly... Always playing the victim.. x.x
tribal_huntress
Dec. 9th, 2006 01:24 am (UTC)
i read her Deviant ARt profile and she sounds insane. lol.
just_mike1
Dec. 9th, 2006 04:41 am (UTC)
Ok, I know the 'furry' community is new to facts and clues, so i'll start by giving you one. She sent the money 2 days ago. We have 2 witnesses as well as ourselves so next time, dont just go with whatever someone says just because they were the first to say it.
spotted_grrrl
Dec. 9th, 2006 04:45 am (UTC)
Lets see;

I got a sketch for him done and started inking it. RL problems happened, so I said I needed to refund. I sent the money 2 days ago. I have 3 witnesses at the bank who saw me get the MO, fill it out, stamp the envelope, and hand it directly to the post man who was right outside getting the mail at the time. I have all the proof in the world I sent the money, so dont you dare accuse me of being a cheat.

And spark, regular contact? You mean me posting on your forum every few weeks? That is not regular contact. You dont know how I conduct myself at all. Accusations, and rumor sporeading...and your in the furry christians group? Might want to start repenting.

Yes, im sure you all know me so so well, not even have talked to me for years or even ever. Nice to go off just assumptions. Does making others feel bad make you feel so powerful or something? You all are no better then the old schoolyard bullies.
bladespark
Dec. 9th, 2006 05:46 am (UTC)
Every few weeks seems pretty regular to me. I'd say, given the history of what you've posted there, that I'm quite justified in my conclusions. I don't know you all that well, but you've posted enough for me to have some idea of your characer.

I didn't accuse you of anything, save what you yourself have just demonstrated here. Unprofessional behavior. Saying that I need to repent, and am somehow being a bully because I said the truth as I was aware of it is isn't terribly nice of you either.

Chill a little, stop taking everything as a personal attack. I'm not out to get you, and I didn't say it to make you feel bad, I said it because the purpose of this community is to warn people about folks they shouldn't do business with. I don't hate you, I'm not trying to ruin you. I'm stating facts, the facts being that I wouldn't do business with you.
harliquinnraver
Dec. 9th, 2006 01:55 pm (UTC)
It wouldnt be a bother if I had the money, but I dont. I havent worked in 3 years despite trying to get work constantly. I would have to borr
borrow money just to get the 2 bucks back


but i seem to recall you bragging to me about how you sell everything you make and that you average over $1000 a month on fursuits alone. *rolls eyes and shakes head* jesus, everything you say is lies.

you thrive off of drama. you always have. you get so "OMG OFFENDED", flip out, spout crap and then delete your journal. a day or 2 later, its undeleted and your back to normal. you do this ALL THE TIME. i can only assume someone started trolling you on a regular basis and you opted to change your journal to avoid them. but then after this OMG DRAMA...look, your account has been deleted once more, and im sure itll be back...yet again.

you need to stop lying and stop playing the victim. its not very professional to do the shit youre doing, nor is it professional to guilt trip customers. youve always had a serious attitude problem and i think its about time you get that fixed before you even consider attempting to run a business.

hell, you pestered Rose for a free icon and whined when someone else got one, and then you got on my case for suggesting a sewing machine since you said your was always getting jammed. you freak out over NOTHING. chill out. if anyone is being a BULLY, its YOU.
just_mike1
Dec. 9th, 2006 05:10 pm (UTC)
sold quiet a few suits but none lately, thanks to the trolling and lies. congrats furries, you have alienated even more people
harliquinnraver
Dec. 9th, 2006 05:13 pm (UTC)
no lies here mate. she told me that she sold EVERY suit shes ever made and that she had loads of commissions and that she was making over $1000 a month. i find that odd since the orange "cat" suit is still for sale. among other things.
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harliquinnraver
Dec. 10th, 2006 06:39 am (UTC)
first, the word is "quite" not "quiet".

and secondly, shes a liar. thats what that has to do with anything. she composes herself unprofessionally and we all know that.
banrai
Dec. 13th, 2006 03:18 pm (UTC)
and your in the furry christians group? Might want to start repenting.

What? WHAT? Ahaha, they're right, you really are batshit. If that's the only defense you have, something must be wrong here.
mapdark
Dec. 17th, 2006 06:10 am (UTC)
..

Ok ..

Thing is .. he payed you .. you did'nt do the job ..
he wanted a refund and you lagged on it..

Not professional at all ..

I don't know you so I'm not biased.. but it'S not right..
wereblood
Jan. 5th, 2007 08:56 pm (UTC)
You make me giggle =D

It seems you are always having "RL problems" by the look of it. It was stupid of you to take the commission in the first place if you knew you could not finish it. You shouldn't except commissions at all until you get your own angry-ass head together. Your job and money problems are your own fault, anyone can get a job, and you don't need to give your customers guilt trips.

You need to lay back and stop taking commissions until you pull yourself together, the end.

People here are not making false assumptions of you, they only are saying what they know of you because you have given them the information through your unprofessional and bitchy nature. If you don't like it than change your attitude.

Joy
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