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BEWARE: DOBERMANMORALIST

WHO: DobermanMoralist @ FA

WHERE: FurAffinity

WHAT: Digital Artwork

WHEN: September 29th, 2018 to Today

EXPLAIN: So I ordered a YCH from DobermanMoralist on September 29th. It is nearing three months since this date, and I have received NO updates on progress, NO messages, nothing. So on Monday I asked for either progress updates or a refund, and they said that they would complete mine AFTER they finished their new Christmas YCHs (which were ordered 3 weeks ago). I said "So.. you're doing the Christmas ones first, before the one I paid for three months ago?" Just to clarify, and they confirmed.

So I said "I think I'd just rather have the refund then." To which they responded "I don't do refunds, there was no queue, you weren't given a number on the queue, I'll do the art and you won't get your money back."

PROOF: https://sta.sh/0s54xmzrqgy EVERYTHING is in this one image.
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gatekat
Dec. 27th, 2018 12:37 am (UTC)
If you paid via PayPal they can't enforce that.
File a dispute and then upgraded it to a claim if they don't refund.
Also remember that if you mark it resolved you can't open a second dispute so don't accept any promises.
Tyrah Jynn
Dec. 27th, 2018 02:17 am (UTC)
There is an open dispute, they have apparently “provided evidence” but hopefully PayPal sides with me. The person is just being nasty at this point and I have NO desire to work with them further.
gatekat
Dec. 27th, 2018 02:42 am (UTC)
If it is only a dispute PayPal won't resolve anything.
They only make the call if you escalate the dispute to a claim within 20 days of opening the dispute.

FAQ:
https://www.paypal.com/us/smarthelp/article/i-didn't-receive-the-item-i-purchased-or-it's-different-from-the-description.-how-do-i-report-the-problem-faq1344
Tyrah Jynn
Dec. 27th, 2018 02:48 am (UTC)
It is a claim, sorry lol PayPal terminology confuses me. It’s currently “under review” by PayPal.. I hope they side with me.
gatekat
Dec. 27th, 2018 03:32 am (UTC)
No problem. I find it confusing as well. But it's so important in getting a refund it's better to over-explain than assume.
poizenkat
Dec. 27th, 2018 02:25 am (UTC)
woah what a nasty attitude! I hope you get your money back soon!
Tyrah Jynn
Dec. 27th, 2018 02:30 am (UTC)
Me too :/ they just told me “no one deceived you, don’t waste my time”
mortymaxwell
Dec. 27th, 2018 08:52 am (UTC)
It seems like he thinks you are blackmailing and threatening him.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/3lzpp4pw47bmr3k/prof5.jpg?dl=0

Thank you for warning us about his unprofessional behavior.
Tyrah Jynn
Dec. 27th, 2018 10:10 am (UTC)
Yea, they posted that on their main page. It kind of feels like they’re just telling on themselves with that..
celestinaketzia
Dec. 27th, 2018 03:16 pm (UTC)
mod comment
Just as a heads up removal of bewares from here is against our rules, and you will be permabanned for doing so.

Regardless if the artist sends a refund or paypal, then we will mark this as resolved both here and on your archive copy located here.

Edited at 2018-12-27 03:26 pm (UTC)
Tyrah Jynn
Dec. 27th, 2018 06:36 pm (UTC)
RE: mod comment
sorry, the note I sent them was sent before I even knew this livejournal existed ^^;
I have NO intention of removing any of these bewares anymore
celestinaketzia
Dec. 27th, 2018 06:06 pm (UTC)
Mod Comment
Hey OP!

It looks like the artist's name has been left uncensored in Russian. If you could please get that we'd appreciate it.
Tyrah Jynn
Dec. 27th, 2018 06:36 pm (UTC)
RE: Mod Comment
Am I able to edit posts? I’m on mobile, will try to get that fixed
celestinaketzia
Dec. 27th, 2018 06:37 pm (UTC)
Re: Mod Comment
Yes~ Click on "edit entry" and you can swap out the old stash link for a fixed one.
mazz
Dec. 28th, 2018 12:09 am (UTC)
Ooooo issue a chargeback and wash your hands of them. What a terrible attitude.
mazz
Dec. 28th, 2018 12:10 am (UTC)
Ah it looks like you already disputed it through paypal. Good
scourge8574
Dec. 28th, 2018 12:38 am (UTC)
Okay, wait a sec here. He was talking about prioritizing holiday commissions, but if you go to his page and look in his gallery yesterday and today he posted 4:20 ych's. Which are not holiday related and were taken after your commission as well.

http://www.furaffinity.net/view/29017229/
Siren Aien
Dec. 28th, 2018 04:33 am (UTC)
from the looks of it they already finished all their holiday ychs?

Edited at 2018-12-28 04:35 am (UTC)
scourge8574
Dec. 28th, 2018 04:45 am (UTC)
Them may have not sure, but it still means they are working on commissions taken after the OP's. They even took and finished all the Halloween commissions they took after her's as well. There are also a few others that weren't themed that were taken after her and completed before her.
Tyrah New
Dec. 28th, 2018 09:47 am (UTC)
Yeah so for some reason my phone has been posting from my old FB account.. sorry about that all .-.
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