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Xhybora

WHO: Xhybora


WHERE: Furaffinity ( http://www.furaffinity.net/user/xhybora/ ) and Discord


WHAT: Single character short looping animation


WHEN: First payment made December 30th Second payment made January 12th.


EXPLAIN: This'll be a bit all over the place because of how FA's notes work. And I want to get every single screenshot so it shows everything. (It reads from bottom to top when it comes to the back and forth, in case it looks a bit confusing to read.)

Just a warning that the images might have some NSFW related discussions and content.


29/8/2017
I was first approached by Xhybora on the 29th of October where they expressed interest in doing an animation for me. [1]
I of course responded, not having had many people actually express interest in me and my OC's so much they actually come to me. I try to keep it buisiness like but friendly at the same time. [2]



30/8/2017
The next day he replies telling me how much the base price normally is. [3]
I respond to them, telling them where it's easier to talk to me and how to keep in contact with me as well as telling them which characters would be good for the animation they had in mind. [4]
They then ask for my Discord. [5]
I give them said Discord. [6]
Through Discord we discuss the idea. [7] [8] [9] [10] [11]

11/12/2017
He messages me to check up on if I'm still on board with the commission and when I will be able to pay. [12]
I suggest a payment plan since my PC had kicked the bucket and I had to spend any money I'd been saving on a laptop. He also reiiterates the idea he had in mind as well as which OC he wanted to use, which was my Fursona. [13]
He tells me how much it will cost and what it will come with. I also express interest that if the animation turns out well I'll return for more. I think you can tell how that went. [14]
I work out roughly about how much I can pay for and when I'd be able to. As I always like to give explanations on how/when I get the money and when it'll be in Paypal. As being transparent with the artist and explaining everything to them is something that I find they like. [15]
We continue talking about the commission and not much else. [16]

28/12/2017 - 29/12/2017
He messages me again to make sure I'm still interested. [17]

30/12/2017
I pay the first payment. 30/100 USD. [18]
The Invoice. [19]
Him and I discuss when I'll be able to pay it all off/make another payment. [20]

12/1/2018
He asks for the rest of the commission payment, which I pay in full. [21]
The Second Invoice. [22]

25/5/2018 - 23/12/2018
I ask how the commission is doing. To which he says he'll get me a wip soon almost a week later. I wait a few months, ask for the update he said he'd give me months prior. I wait 12 days before giving up waiting any longer. [23]
I make a payment request through PayPal since I don't know what else to do. [24]


UPDATE:

Xhybora got back to me, and agreed to doing a refund.

Here is the conversation about it. [25] [26]

(This is a bit of a lazy update, sorry, as I'm half asleep. But if proof is needed for the Paypal refund please tell me and I'll update it with that proof when I'm next on.)

Overall I kinda just feel crappy. I got a bad feeling once or twice around the time I was paying him. But I didn't listen to it because I always feel bad saying no and/or making people upset. I was just too naive and gullible.
I am not sure if it'll get solved. If it does that's a plus. But I'd like this to be here as a warning. Do not commission someone if you get any sliver of a bad feeling. And please, be wary of people that come to you for a commission.


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Comments

( 17 comments — Leave a comment )
celestinaketzia
Dec. 24th, 2018 11:11 am (UTC)
Heya!

We've approved your post, but can you please put a note in that your discord conversations are NSFW. Example like your archive post:
https://artistsbeware.info/beware/submissions/beware-xhybora-r58/
midderoo
Dec. 24th, 2018 12:11 pm (UTC)
Ack sorry my bad. I didn’t even think about that, was the edit I did good enough with the bolding? xAx
celestinaketzia
Dec. 24th, 2018 02:10 pm (UTC)
That's perfect thank you!
rendrassa
Dec. 25th, 2018 04:42 am (UTC)
Never pleasant when an artist tries to go all note-to-note salesman for commissions. Just leaves a bad taste overall.
midderoo
Dec. 26th, 2018 01:18 am (UTC)
Definitely got that feeling afterwards tbh.
Shoulda acted on how my gut felt. :’v
rendrassa
Dec. 26th, 2018 02:10 am (UTC)
Live and learn. And spread the word. Things you've done, so hope you feel something came of it, even if you never get your refund.
midderoo
Dec. 26th, 2018 02:17 am (UTC)
Yeah that’s true. I know a fair few things now, but problem is it’s usually a lot of coincidences. So no point in like, you know. Putting them in. xV
But yeah. I’ll keep updating things as the story progresses.
rendrassa
Dec. 26th, 2018 12:37 pm (UTC)
Always like updates, especially if they're good.
midderoo
Dec. 28th, 2018 04:03 pm (UTC)
Speaking of updates. :>
whoop_zi
Dec. 28th, 2018 04:54 pm (UTC)
If you feel this situation has been adequately resolved we'll be happy to mark it as such!
midderoo
Dec. 29th, 2018 05:19 pm (UTC)
I think it’ll be best to wait till I get all of the refund first! :>
I’m sure I’ll get it all back, but you know. Just to be on the safe side.
whoop_zi
Dec. 29th, 2018 06:32 pm (UTC)
Absolutely, do keep us updated!
rendrassa
Dec. 29th, 2018 05:14 pm (UTC)
Good to see a positive outcome.
scafedragon
Jan. 3rd, 2019 07:54 am (UTC)
I wanted to sign up here to livejournal to thank you for this beware. If it wasn't for you, I would've fell victim to this. Thank you so much.

He noted me as well out of nowhere not too long ago early December lastyear seeing if I was interested, which I was but I told him that I'd discuss something later on in the month. He noted me today seeing if I was still interested which I had a gut feeling suddenly to look him up on google and I found your journal about him here.

I also saw from another journal that he did the same thing, even pulled the "I'm on vacation" to another person and never refunded them when asked for it.
nezerithdog
Jan. 8th, 2019 06:17 am (UTC)
Saddly this guy got to me as well, and with it being way past the point of being able to make a claim on paypal, all i can do is message him via discord.
Worst part is, i saw the red flags, but even after trying to do research i didnt see his name anywhere so i figured why not. Was only after i learned hes done this to a few people i know who only told me much later that this wasnt going to happen.

I asked for any kind of wip multiple times, and now its just silence on his end.

I know hes done this to multiple other parties as well, a few of which are also out of luck.

Edited at 2019-01-08 06:22 am (UTC)
midderoo
Jan. 13th, 2019 04:59 am (UTC)
I’d like to say it’s all resolved now, all paid back.
celestinaketzia
Jan. 13th, 2019 05:00 am (UTC)
Fantastic! We'll get this marked for you.
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