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Beware: Izacmafia, EmperorZheng

WHO: izacmafia on FA, EmperorZheng on DA

WHERE: FurAffinity

WHAT: Zerosuit special colored sketch.

WHEN: October 15th-31st 2018

EXPLAIN: Did not make corrections on a WIP sketch, and was abusive when such was requested.  Admittedly, I could have handled it better, but I'm unused to such behavior.  The latest/last notes exchanged through FA was shortly before I left for work this morning and when I got home this evening, I found that he'd already deleted the work and approval sketches before I'd been able to save them.   I know English wasn't his first language, and communication was difficult at times, but he managed to satisfactorily complete one piece prior to this, despite him misreading or ignoring how I'd requested the characters be posed.

I'm unsure if I should still press him for a refund seeing as he did the work, but I am now without even the unsatisfactory art.

Edit: He did restore the image in question and I was able to save it, so the beware is now primarily about his behavior and advice on how to proceed.


PROOF: I apologize for how disjointed and difficult to follow the conversation may be, FA note system is kind of difficult to use, and I had to bounce between my inbox and outbox.  Please do note that 11 is not a duplicate, as it shows a different response.

[Spoiler (click to open)]

https://www.dropbox.com/s/l10trvc31ed4wfa/01.png?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/n7ecsz1wlvh9y6a/02.png?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/01hxkt0j3xzlb46/03.png?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ey3pem5syi6yymh/04.png?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/7gqhzcwcg0jqwut/05.png?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/lj8eq5nnlcd4fuv/06.png?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/8vgj6g1dfcvz0yu/07.png?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4hya4anavfhpboi/08.png?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/gh6oqhcaf051ead/09.png?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/pkh09hragdekg8e/10.png?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/c0mbv7gxpu8644g/11.png?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/xnqwddcd7dzq4lj/12.png?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0l5d3q6agtksyok/13.png?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/k25xwl7kl6u26nf/14.png?dl=0 Edit: Art was received, 14 just remains to demonstrate it was infact deleted.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/5fqytygw7nkzqq5/15.png?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/y7rt2p3k9372xy1/17.png?dl=0

The work in question: https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/intermediary/f/d0419ad4-d23f-43fc-ad3c-41fbd79202b4/dcqsi1k-0f6c89a2-6327-47cd-b61b-2821d10f7af5.jpg/v1/fill/w_764,h_1046,q_70,strp/commission_for_eviscerator_2_by_emperorzheng_dcqsi1k-pre.jpg

And as in my first screencap, I requested heights of 160cm and 185cm respectively, and supplied a visual aid when requesting the correction: http://www.mrinitialman.com/OddsEnds/Sizes/sizes.html?base_ft=&base_in=185&comp_ft=&comp_in=160

I don't know what good a paypal screencap would be, as the art is done and I'm no longer pursuing a refund, but here goes: https://www.dropbox.com/s/v381vs704trfryg/16.png?dl=0

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Comments

( 6 comments — Leave a comment )
xilacs
Nov. 4th, 2018 04:39 am (UTC)
Wow, all that guilt tripping and passive aggressive talk from the artist. Beware well warranted. I'd echo what you said at one point: what is the point of sending a WIP sketch if you don't plan to make any changes?
col_eviscerator
Nov. 4th, 2018 04:20 pm (UTC)
Yeah, that was confusing. It's why I was so caught off guard when his tone changed so quickly after I asked for the alteration.
Heart_Collar
Nov. 4th, 2018 10:21 am (UTC)
Without any reference i would have no idea how to draw the size differences but seeing you even helped the artist in this and your correction request just a little edit i have no idea whats the artist's problem. Also calling it drama? Disturbing behaviour. If the artist cant deal with such edits then art commission is not a job they should continue. I have such edit requests all the time. Beware well warranted!
col_eviscerator
Nov. 4th, 2018 04:23 pm (UTC)
Yeah. At first I thought maybe he was using Google Translate and it accidentally'd some words.
exo_formicidae
Nov. 4th, 2018 08:15 pm (UTC)
They seem to take critique to their work (the face and height) as more a personal critique rather than input to make their work fit what you wished for - which is very unfortunate. that combined with the unprofessional behavior is yikes

Also "just drawing what I see" is not an excuse to not get the species right if you have written what the species is - but I can understand being confused if the Ref they got was similar to what they made? It also seem you sent the height ref after the first WiP - so that would probably be smart to send ahead of time next time :)

Ofc some artist don't want a lot of refs, but I have also been in the position where one character was massively undersized compared to what they are in actuality, which in theory is a quick fix if you can just upscale it digitally. But yes it's extra work, and the proportions might get messed up needed a lot of work.

I apologize if I have misunderstood something as my reading comprehension is a bit lacking atm.
col_eviscerator
Nov. 5th, 2018 05:12 am (UTC)
True, the height ref could have been sent sooner, but as you point out multiple refs have their own issues. Particularly when the artist speaks English as a second language.
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