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Im posting this for Joanna aka PageDrillgirl from DA.


My experience with Sun Tate (devilkittiejr on deviant art) is not a pleasant one. It started about 2 and a half years ago, when I had just returned from a trip to NYC, in spring of 04. She had up a journal saying she was in a money crunch and that she was offering up commissions. Me just returning from vacation had a lil extra cash so I went and offered it up since she was my friend. I paid her 25 dollars for 2 characters in traditional media, and a small background, in the form of a money order. From the start things seemed a lil weird. After a week I said have you gotten my money? She hadn’t. A month goes by and no money. She’s still on about how she has no cash. I send in 15 dollars (she lowered it since..something happened. ) And she gets this. Okay fine. Money is received time to get my commission right?

After that she presented me with an inked sketch. It wasn’t the pose I wanted and a lot of things from my characters were missing including many things that I consider “trademark.” I had very clear refs, and multiple other pictures to ref from so there really was no excuse for that. I told her this nicely and she said “Oh sure I dunno how I missed it, I’ll re-do it.” Well…after this I’ve never received anything again.

Over the months, and eventually YEARS I get. Nothing. She continues to upload pictures, some containing up to 10 characters in one picture (she does this a lot) I continue to ask about my commission. At first its “I don’t have any markers to match the colors.” Okay..me being a marker artist can understand this, but I always make sure I have my markers -before- I start commissions, so that if there IS an issue I can add like 3 dollars to the tab to GET that marker. But yanno whatever, I waited. More months go by. More pics come up. Its true that most are in digital, but some were in traditional media. I ask her yet again. This time is my characters that are giving her troubles. Well me still trying to be understanding gives her an alternative, and she agrees to draw two other characters still in traditional media. Then..yet again nothing, and yet again it’s the “I don’t have the correct markers for that character excuse.”

At this point in time I’m like, well can you just give me a refund..please. She agrees. Yet I still don’t have anything. About a month ago I sent her a note, which she read and never responded too. So I took that as her ignoring me. After a week goes by and no response from the note I make a comment publicly to her page to which she says yet again I’ll give you the refund yet she adds “And I’ll send the multiple sketches I’ve never been able to finish for you.” Yet I’ve not ever seen..any of the ones she’s talking about besides the very very first wrong one. Okay fine..I was going to go on about it but on DA they have a new block feature, and she blocked my comments. So…I figure this needs to come out. I’ve pretty much given up hope for getting my refund or commission and I hear she’s still offering commissions.
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Sep. 15th, 2006 02:48 am (UTC)
It says on this persons profile they are 18. Which means that they were commissioned at 15/16. I stear clear of minors. Not all of them tend to rip people off, but I've seen to many cases where they do.
Sep. 15th, 2006 07:49 am (UTC)
Agreed. And on the flipside, I try not to LET minors commission me as well. I've been burned by Minors as Clients, and I know many who've been burned by Minors as Artists.
Sep. 15th, 2006 08:26 pm (UTC)
Lol "Trademark".

So, If I read this right, she got her inked piece buuut didn't like it?
Sep. 16th, 2006 02:59 am (UTC)
If I understood it right, the commissioner got an inked sketch that wasn't to her liking.

Really, an artist should always send a commissioner a rough sketch of the requested image before placing inks down, just in case the commissioner wants changes made to it (saves the artist alot of time by doing so).
Sep. 16th, 2006 10:44 pm (UTC)
Exactly, where in the misunderstanding lies. She got what she paid for, being the inked piece, and when she did, she complained about it. (Not that I ever have, but if someone paid me for my time/art supplies, and I got it done, and they had the nerve to complain about the piece when they never asked for a prelim sketch.. theeen yeaaaah, I would probably chalk that up as bad attitude from the commissioner and make it a point to not allow them to do business with me again.)
Sep. 17th, 2006 03:55 pm (UTC)
Well, no, she didn't get what she paid for. At least I read it as the commission being for a colored piece, and inks where important features are missing wouldn't be what she paid for.

The way I see it:
If I ink something without showing a sketch, and someone complains about the pose being slightly off, I'll say "tough luck", but if I miss important character features or the pose is significantly off, that's my problem, and I'll just have to suck it up and draw a new one if the commissioner asks me to. Many/most commissioners don't, but it does happen. I would've ended up redoing a finished inked and colored piece at one point because I'd screwed up on one detail that was important to the buyer, if I hadn't been able to fix it, whiteout being unreliable at best.

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