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Beware FarisBatwan "FBsuits"

WHO: FarisBatwan (FBsuits) - http://www.furaffinity.net/user/farisbatwan - https://twitter.com/fbsuits and the facebook which is under "FuzzyBatSuits" https://www.facebook.com/fuzzybatsuits/

WHERE: Conversations were spread out between Facebook and Texts.

WHAT: body suit commission, feet, handpaws, head trade, a pre-made black body suit, and Lastly a body suit that she was fixing for me made by headsandtailsstudios named "Zaroo".

WHEN: Febuary 22, 2018 [As of September 25, Pending refund but has not made contact with me since then].

EXPLAIN: The initial transaction was 550$ for a Body suit of one of my characters and a pair of black feetpaws, she said that she would throw in a pair of handpaws in for free with the commission.

Transaction 2/22/2018: https://imgur.com/a/oJhGtyB full payment as she requested here; https://imgur.com/a/ANWt6HB

While the commission was taking place I was in the process of looking for a black body for my character Kieraa (We did a head trade so she was making my Kieraa head) when she learned I was looking for a black body suit she told me about one she had for 400$ it was a planti-grade black body https://imgur.com/a/mDiAzAs I questioned her about why we couldn't swap my ZER0 commission body out with this one and she told me that since she had already gotten the materials and pattern out that she wasn't going to (also needed the extra money; https://imgur.com/a/uuypkVd)
so I went ahead and paid 400$ + 22$ she requested extra for(Payments for it: https://imgur.com/XJFkBBY Apologies they were sent in weird amounts I had to dig through and balance funds at the time)
Upon further discussion I wanted fur to be added to the back of the body so it had a moehawk/mane look to it so when I brought that to her attention she wanted an additional 22$ to pay for the fur cost to add that look onto it (essentially making this now a commission even though it was a premade) https://imgur.com/wr60I4s So I paid her the 22$ on May 14 which can be seen in the payment plan started for the body picture.
May 31st I get this message https://imgur.com/plykAWG "So I ran into a huge problem" So I was curious what was going on ... But wasn't getting any responses back so I messaged her on my phone asking what the problem was and getting worried because there was no responses. I find out later; https://imgur.com/oDqGNkt / https://imgur.com/VnrQNLb That the body was a 'premade' only because it was someones DTD who messed up and then later was demanding their body back. But I had already paid for extra work to be done on this body that she did say she did and all of that stuff (never got pictures of the extension fur on the back though still) She said it would be handled, but I'm still not sure if it was handled correctly.

Fast forward a little bit and my partner ends up getting angry at her for not producing any WIPS and making a lot of excuses - He wanted me to open a paypal case and put his foot down on it because we sent the money "Friends and Family" and if there was a chance we could get it back then we should try https://imgur.com/5FnF1X8 so she responds back to me https://imgur.com/4QdVRCz and https://imgur.com/MWCi0Ne Holding me responsible for the case being opened and I told her it wasn't about the money so much as it was about the WIPS for the two of us because they were flat out promised https://imgur.com/cNCEkgo Case was 'mutually decided' to be closed because of the Terms of Service she has set in place so I couldn't have a case open and she provided me with pictures of an abandoned project along with SOME of my commission (seen here: https://imgur.com/K3fvK1t / https://imgur.com/jTTu6Ay only I couldn't see my commission part very well because everything was so jumbled and bunched together but there is; The black body suit which I couldn't see very well, Zaroo's suit she was fixing up and some side projects which were a black and red body with a bio-hazard symbol in the middle along with a tail she didn't want to throw away because it was a canceled commission she had prior so was giving to me and a pair of handpaws that weren't part of that exact commission)

With the case closed it takes me a little bit to get something from her for a while but eventually I got tracking information; https://imgur.com/aw9QzRy by it's history it took a while to update, the number was made on September 1st https://imgur.com/Ds2L3DH but the item was not picked up until September 7th, which is shown there. It looks like an odd route the package was going but I decided not to question it, I live in Florida so the route looked odd to me. When I finally looked at 'estimated' delivery date and lined things up, the package was headed and delivered to North Dakota; https://imgur.com/lqwUcWD I asked her about it; (Here's where shes saying it's the right tracking number and going to me; https://imgur.com/lAQqbQm / https://imgur.com/wjb6Bbk and here https://imgur.com/pSgeo2J) in that package was suppose to be half of my commission + a bodysuit she decided to fix for me almost a year ago (https://imgur.com/f3Tt6SR where she was asking for the measurements to fix him, you can see it in the pictures I received when the case was opened) she said it must of been a post office mix-up and it was out of her hands. She didn't give me a postal case number or anything like that so I had to call in and ask all the questions and when they got back to me they said the package was suppose to go to North Dakota and not Florida, so where my stuff is now?

"Edit: I found out what happened with my tracking, In the comments someone claimed the tracking number and gave me proof https://www.dropbox.com/sh/smkpciia50xrorh/AAAaPASAnzU6ylwx_81o9Y5Va?dl=0 that the tracking + package went to them. I honestly don't know where my stuff is, but she had told me so many times she would be 'done' with my stuff but never had any pictures to back up the rest of my commission being done. There's more I'd like to add to this so when I get the rest of the screenshots in order where I've asked countless times for WIPS and haven't gotten responses I'll upload the link to the album to the beware.

Update: We are working on payment plans for refunding. Will update when refunds are being sent.
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okami_the_maney
Sep. 22nd, 2018 03:25 pm (UTC)
Omg OP,

She gave you the tracking number that was mine. I was waiting for a premade from her since earlier this summer, and had she finally sent to me.

Mods, i dont know if I can post anything here on this beware but that tracking number that Faris gave the OP was the same one she gave me and the box only contained the premade i had purchased.
okami_the_maney
Sep. 22nd, 2018 03:40 pm (UTC)
I can provide the emails I have, the tracking number and a video of what was in the box if I'm allowed to post or in DMs.
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teekchan
Sep. 22nd, 2018 06:29 pm (UTC)
As I was reading this, I was thinking 'they sent someone elses tracking' and got to the comments... It honestly sounds like it was done on purpose as well, and not a mix up.

Hope you get your stuff, as paypal likely wont refund you. You might be able to go through your bank, but its slim.
ext_1644548
Sep. 22nd, 2018 06:37 pm (UTC)
I used it directly from paypal balance, they said it would be easier to just try and take this to a small claims court. That's whats been suggested from me and Honestly I just want my stuff that's about it I don't care anymore after I get my stuff commissions and communications entirely are done and over with.
distractedlemon
Sep. 22nd, 2018 09:50 pm (UTC)
I’m the deer - wolf thing that is being an “ass”
So this is terribly awkward. I want to thank OP for letting me know about this.

Faris was trying to sell my suit’s body behind my back to this poor person, all the while telling me that my suit was “lost” in the mail.

I didn’t “change my mind” because I was never aware of this transaction until now. I have the suit in my possession, it got mysteriously unlost right after I threatened to take them to court.

This person is a scammer, do not buy from them. You will regret it.
ext_1644548
Sep. 22nd, 2018 10:09 pm (UTC)
Re: I’m the deer - wolf thing that is being an “ass”
Yep so basically you never went to her and told her to make you a new digi-grade body, you wanted your body you paid for that 'was lost in the mail' and she was trying to tell you that it was lost in the mail while trying to sell it to me. So it was never a pre-made to be sold.

When she told me it was handled, it wasn't actually handled on my end, only on yours because what was lost to you turned up and what was lost to me still hasn't turned up but did turn out to belong to someone else entirely.

So I was sold something that belonged to someone that didn't change their mind and they thought it was 'lost in the mail' then my tracking turned into someone elses package that didn't belong to me either. This story has turned into something else that's for sure.
princenowhere
Sep. 22nd, 2018 10:33 pm (UTC)
oh yikes I was watching them......
ext_1644548
Sep. 22nd, 2018 10:46 pm (UTC)
Lol she was my friend for 5 years but that changed very quickly with all of this. I was honestly told by friends to make an AB and I didn't listen because she was what I thought a close friend to me but after the North Dakota tracking incident when we were arguing back and forth 'how it could of even gotten there, not her fault it got lost' the tone changed drastically and like that we were no longer friends at all. Now it feels like shes a stranger to me with all of this stuff coming out.
laughsatthunder
Sep. 22nd, 2018 11:32 pm (UTC)
The comments here are incredible. Faris really needs to step up, this is NOT okay.
ext_1644548
Sep. 22nd, 2018 11:41 pm (UTC)
I agree with you there. None of this was or is okay.
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norsepaw
Sep. 23rd, 2018 06:42 am (UTC)
Holy holland lop! So she sent someone elses tracking number, she sold you someone elses bodysuit that they now got.
What on earth is Faris thinking???
ext_1644548
Sep. 23rd, 2018 06:25 pm (UTC)
Thats what happened yes... :/
CityFursuits
Sep. 23rd, 2018 12:58 pm (UTC)
Ugh. I had a really good experience with faris back in 2015 or so. I bought 3 things from her. So I started recommending her to others and it seems she just went to shit right after I stopped doing business with her.

I used to think it was all just bad luck but this beware changes my whole view of everything.

I have nothing but shame for pushing my friends toward her, one of which is currently still having problems.

I am so sorry you all went through this. Are going through this...
ext_1644548
Sep. 23rd, 2018 06:28 pm (UTC)
Heres the thing, what you said; happened to me. Way back when I commissioned her and I did small things here and there like a tail or something, then I went for a big commission this year and this is the treatment I had gotten... Thats the problem; I had the most amazing experience with her back in like 2014 or 2013 something like that. where she had my suit done in like 3 days and it was amazing. Then I commissioned her on and off.. I saw bewares throughout the years and I thought they just had bad luck since her and I kept in touch for 5 years and it always seemed like she was being burnt by others and I was just like 'damn she has awful luck' Until I started to go through what others were going through....
crystamartin
Sep. 30th, 2018 03:55 pm (UTC)
Not the first suit Faris has claimed she shipped, not the first incorrect tracking number she's provided, and not the first suit to turn up after threats of chargebacks were made.

It's disappointing to see that some two years on she's still up to the same tricks.
ext_1644548
Oct. 4th, 2018 09:19 pm (UTC)
Oh you've had the same experience?
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bunglechiv
Oct. 1st, 2018 12:01 am (UTC)
She is aware of this journal entry, as I linked to it on her Furaffinity page. She didn't respond and instead deleted my shout.
I left another shout the next day, within a few hours, my shouts were again deleted without a word back to me.
I had even politely suggested she give her half of the story here to refute the claims. However, after those shouts dissapeared, im convinced she would rather sweep it under the rug, and run away.
Multuple really sketchy things are happening with several customers, as 2 others have spoken to me after seeing my shout up for what few hours it was.
All it would take from Faris to put these accusations to bed, is a polite intellegent response. However, her track
bunglechiv
Oct. 1st, 2018 12:08 am (UTC)
Continued^^^^^
Record has me suspecting she's not about to step forward with her explaination for what seems to be some majorly damning lies. Multiple people having experienced near identical situations, and a complete lack of humility and remorse and even appology from Faris. It's not looking too good right now....

Also Doh! Sorry this comment is in 2 halves.
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bunglechiv
Oct. 1st, 2018 02:33 am (UTC)
My apologies, as I didnt realize a politely worded comment to the artist in question could count as harassment, as I genuinely was curious to hear her side ,but fair enough.
I understand the rules are there for everyones benifit.
ext_1644548
Oct. 4th, 2018 09:22 pm (UTC)
In no way am I trying to Harass or condone harassment of FBsuits/FarisBatwan; I was sharing my story of what was going on with her. I in no way want anybody to harass her that was not my intention.

I am in contact with her (have not gotten a response since she said she would refund me 30% of my original commission and what was 'lost in the mail')

But in no way do I condone harassment on her.
Randall Lupus
Oct. 5th, 2018 04:31 pm (UTC)
I have a supposedly "lost with USPS" package too that never even got an origin/acceptance scan =|.

Seems to happen to way too many people to just be bad luck.
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