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unpaid reference sheet

WHO: Rayd / Hytyle / Aprilycan

WHERE: fur affinity

WHAT: reference sheet

WHEN: July 21 to yesterday morning

EXPLAIN: user posted to FA forums in search of an artist for making a reference sheet. we agreed that I would be paid 60 during the process and remaining 40 upon completion. since being around 60% of the way through, I have been asking for partial payment; user has in response, acted like a victim by me asking for payment, suddenly reversing the affirming that my style works for them, that they like what I'm making, and claiming they hate it and therefore don't need to pay me. they have even said i'm witch hunting them, which is hilarious! since I've given up being paid the rent money i still need and have moved on to simply wanting to warn other people that this person is insincere and dishonest in their dealings.

at first it seemed like a good fit.
I gave them a choice of pose and got started.
I asked them for feedback about the quality of linework and style.
I started in on color and texture, adjusting when they had feedback, but the word "perfect" was thrown around a lot.
Created multiple versions for comparison and customer design choice.
Started in on the extra offers I included - poses with his outfit, offers to illustrate him using magic. Things people usually don't include in one reference sheet package.
Around this time I started asking for payment and realized they most likely weren't planning on paying me.
making a personal post to vent about what happened, they comment to harass me, while blocking me, meaning I technically can't reply to their weird victim posing.

all said, I think some people are just best avoided at times. I don't know what's going on with this person, but I'd glad a platform exists to warn fellow artists. am I sad? yes. can I pay the rent without this income? not yet. am I going to waste my time harassing this person like they're harassing me? definitely not. but now I know I can check for names here if someone I'm working for seems fishy, and hope everyone stays safe out there.
Artist's beware has moved!
Do NOT repost your old bewares. They are being archived.


Aug. 25th, 2018 04:10 pm (UTC)

You can send OP a message through Livejournal.

Click on "send message" near the top.

They also should have this post on follow automatically, unless they opted to turn it off. But livejournal does email people when they receive messages.
Aug. 25th, 2018 04:27 pm (UTC)
I am here.

discord, telegram, FA, fa forums, are all available when calm is restored, but currently, i am still blocked and un paid.

i know anxiety can be all consuming at times. sometimes people need a day to calm down. we have a few more days until next month.

it would really help our family out to have some of the money we planned to have .

i am really, honestly shocked at the amount of care. love and attention. that people have put in to helping communications in this transaction.

I did not know about this community self defense / reality check network existing
until community came to help make sure we can pay rent and help communicate on my behalf.

where my brain had left things, was blaming only myself and feeling powerless and just accepting that this work is a gamble, at times.

thank you to online artists community.
Aug. 25th, 2018 06:39 pm (UTC)
I'll see if I can find you on FAF, then we can talk about payment either there, or you can send me your Discord/Telegram if you prefer an instant messager so that I can unblock you on those.

EDIT: It seems you may have blocked me as well on FAF...I'm going to try FA now.

Edited at 2018-08-25 06:49 pm (UTC)
Aug. 25th, 2018 07:53 pm (UTC)
I wish to contact you privately. Where is a good place to do so?

Also ypu are bery welcome for the help. Any tome someone is wronged im the art world fellpw artists most always help to get it resolved. Now if we could just get the AB to copperate. All they really have to do is unblock you from the main platform they blocked you on and message you. I domt know why that seems to be so difficult for them.
Aug. 25th, 2018 08:35 pm (UTC)
Contacted them already by the way. The way you're going about this is very odd, as you're still acting as if I'm not trying to fix things, saying that I'm not cooperating. It's strange.
Aug. 25th, 2018 09:54 pm (UTC)
Well goven the OP srated you still had them blpcked i found it odd you didnt just unblock them when you decided to get back into contact right off the bat.

And seeing as you contacted them, I hope then that the OP will post an update regarding the matter ans things get resolved.
Aug. 25th, 2018 10:29 pm (UTC)
mod comment
I'm going to go ahead and freeze this as it's starting to go in circles. If two you wish to continue this discussion via PMs, you're welcome to do so.

Edited at 2018-08-25 10:29 pm (UTC)


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