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unpaid reference sheet

WHO: Rayd / Hytyle / Aprilycan

WHERE: fur affinity

WHAT: reference sheet

WHEN: July 21 to yesterday morning

EXPLAIN: user posted to FA forums in search of an artist for making a reference sheet. we agreed that I would be paid 60 during the process and remaining 40 upon completion. since being around 60% of the way through, I have been asking for partial payment; user has in response, acted like a victim by me asking for payment, suddenly reversing the affirming that my style works for them, that they like what I'm making, and claiming they hate it and therefore don't need to pay me. they have even said i'm witch hunting them, which is hilarious! since I've given up being paid the rent money i still need and have moved on to simply wanting to warn other people that this person is insincere and dishonest in their dealings.



at first it seemed like a good fit.
I gave them a choice of pose and got started.
I asked them for feedback about the quality of linework and style.
I started in on color and texture, adjusting when they had feedback, but the word "perfect" was thrown around a lot.
Created multiple versions for comparison and customer design choice.
Started in on the extra offers I included - poses with his outfit, offers to illustrate him using magic. Things people usually don't include in one reference sheet package.
Around this time I started asking for payment and realized they most likely weren't planning on paying me.
making a personal post to vent about what happened, they comment to harass me, while blocking me, meaning I technically can't reply to their weird victim posing.

all said, I think some people are just best avoided at times. I don't know what's going on with this person, but I'd glad a platform exists to warn fellow artists. am I sad? yes. can I pay the rent without this income? not yet. am I going to waste my time harassing this person like they're harassing me? definitely not. but now I know I can check for names here if someone I'm working for seems fishy, and hope everyone stays safe out there.
Artist's beware has moved!
Do NOT repost your old bewares. They are being archived.
https://artistsbeware.info/

Comments

prettykittyaz
Aug. 24th, 2018 06:01 pm (UTC)
I would personally like proof of these people coming forward saying you are in the right as anyone who is an artist or frequent buyer would not agree with you abandoning your responsibilities. As for me I am personally blacklisting you from any sales due to your immaturity to own up to what you need to pay.
dragontripmon
Aug. 24th, 2018 06:10 pm (UTC)
prettykittyaz
Aug. 24th, 2018 06:13 pm (UTC)
Honestly I am seeing more comments that say "you should at least pay something" which i can agree with. Maybe the artist and commissioner can come to some agreement.
celestinaketzia
Aug. 24th, 2018 06:14 pm (UTC)
So basically QM (that's the former FA mod) said they owe for work completed, but the client is just going to ignore that because it's inconvenient.

Also, he still keeps pushing it was "in the sketching phase" when it was clearly colored with multiple turnarounds. I'm not sure if it's blatant lying, or if the client doesn't know what "sketching phase" entails?
dragontripmon
Aug. 24th, 2018 06:38 pm (UTC)
I most likely suspect lying considering the same title of the forum thread is the same as his journal which was rendrassa posted. Considering there several pictures of his character commissioned by artists.
shinmaxwell
Aug. 25th, 2018 03:03 am (UTC)
Feels like blatant lying to me..as that image is quite clearly NOT a sketch.
whoop_zi
Aug. 25th, 2018 12:19 am (UTC)
mod comment
Since the FAF thread has been posted here, I'd like to just throw out a precautionary reminder to everyone here to mind Rule 2:

"Do not, in ANY WAY, contact anyone posted to the community if you are not personally involved in the transaction."

If anyone intends to participate in discussion here, do not bring it over to FAF or anywhere else if you are not directly involved in the transaction.

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