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unpaid reference sheet

WHO: Rayd / Hytyle / Aprilycan

WHERE: fur affinity

WHAT: reference sheet

WHEN: July 21 to yesterday morning

EXPLAIN: user posted to FA forums in search of an artist for making a reference sheet. we agreed that I would be paid 60 during the process and remaining 40 upon completion. since being around 60% of the way through, I have been asking for partial payment; user has in response, acted like a victim by me asking for payment, suddenly reversing the affirming that my style works for them, that they like what I'm making, and claiming they hate it and therefore don't need to pay me. they have even said i'm witch hunting them, which is hilarious! since I've given up being paid the rent money i still need and have moved on to simply wanting to warn other people that this person is insincere and dishonest in their dealings.

at first it seemed like a good fit.
I gave them a choice of pose and got started.
I asked them for feedback about the quality of linework and style.
I started in on color and texture, adjusting when they had feedback, but the word "perfect" was thrown around a lot.
Created multiple versions for comparison and customer design choice.
Started in on the extra offers I included - poses with his outfit, offers to illustrate him using magic. Things people usually don't include in one reference sheet package.
Around this time I started asking for payment and realized they most likely weren't planning on paying me.
making a personal post to vent about what happened, they comment to harass me, while blocking me, meaning I technically can't reply to their weird victim posing.

all said, I think some people are just best avoided at times. I don't know what's going on with this person, but I'd glad a platform exists to warn fellow artists. am I sad? yes. can I pay the rent without this income? not yet. am I going to waste my time harassing this person like they're harassing me? definitely not. but now I know I can check for names here if someone I'm working for seems fishy, and hope everyone stays safe out there.
Artist's beware has moved!
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Aug. 24th, 2018 04:44 pm (UTC)
"I shouldn't be obligated to pay even though I didn't even want what they made in the first place."

Yeah, you're obligated to pay for work already done. You led the artist to believe that you liked it and were happy with everything (AKA - making it seem as if you wanted it in the first place) - right up until the second they asked for payment. Then, suddenly, it's 'Oh no, I didn't like it'. That's believable...

"I'm a little too nice for my own good, and become pressured to give a positive answer whenever asked for an opinion on a friend's creation. I know this is a bad habit and I take full responsibility for wasting the artist's time."

There's nobody on earth that would think you're in the right because 'Oops, I accidentally said that it looked awesome, but I actually don't like it, and the artist should not only know but accept that, while also taking the hit for lost time/money'.

You owe the artist for whatever time of theirs you used up by 'being too polite' (in reality, wasting their time because they thought you liked where it was going).

Finishing the commission? Maybe not, if you're truly dissatisfied, and the artist can go on to do their own thing without wasting more time and you can save the rest of your cash.

You don't have a leg to stand on.

Edited at 2018-08-24 04:50 pm (UTC)


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